To move or not to move; what would you do?

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You can do that anywhere!

Except for Virginia, because filming porn is illegal here. Don't ask me how I know that, cuz it's not like I've actually contemplated doing it, or anything like that, why would you say that? What are you accusing me of?! :weird:

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These are just rumours as far as i know but did u know Kubrick wanted to make a porn film?

Btw, if anyone knows more about this, whether it was definitely true or not, please let me know.
 
Quite comparable.

$100 less per month, 950sqft, 1 bedroom. No parking, safe
neighboorhood, not “hip” (working class mostly Armenian “oldsters”
and Hispanic families). Walking distance to mom-and-pop stores,
mom-and-pop coffee places, mom-and-pop restaurants. Walking
distance to major movie houses (important to me) and three
studios; Paramount, Hollywood Center Studios and Sunset/Gower
Studios.

A 15 minute walk gets me to Griffith Park - 4,310 acres, the LA
Subway, the Chinese Theater and more, great independent
restaurants, bars and stores.

Sounds real cool.

I wanted to be successful and I was one year from becoming a dollar millionaire in cash and assets... and then gave half of it to my ex-wife when she divorced me... oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

However, the moral of the story is you have to bet big to win big and remember to have a pre-nup especially if she is absolutely stunning... ;)

Sad to hear you got taken to the cleaners by the ex wife.
 
Okay, here you go. Start making porn to fund you other stuff?? You could definitely do that in LA. :)
Warning. Do not even consider making porn. And not for
the reasons you all ate thinking.

The money has dropped out. At one time a shooter with
a top of the line camera could pull in $400/$500 per day.
Today you are offered a....

well... service...

at the end of the day and maybe gas money.
 
Warning. Do not even consider making porn. And not for
the reasons you all ate thinking.

The money has dropped out. At one time a shooter with
a top of the line camera could pull in $400/$500 per day.
Today you are offered a....

well... service...

at the end of the day and maybe gas money.

So there is still an up side.:)
 
Covering the almost 40 years of my career story would fill pages, so I'll abbreviate.

I've lived in the NY metro area my whole life. I was an almost prodigy musically, starting on piano and moving on to organ and voice. My parents were gracious enough to get me good teachers. I started playing professionally at age 12. I was an under-achiever in high school except for music, where I was the accompanist for the school choir, sang with the barber shop quartet, played keyboards in the jazz band, and played harpsichord with the baroque orchestra and with two baroque ensembles; I also worked on the school plays. I was regularly employed musically at 16 as a church organist and played piano and was audio tech for a dance school. Almost all my money went into buying equipment. I had a Wurlitzer electronic piano, a fire engine red Acetone organ and a Moog synth with a nice mixer, amp, etc. at 16. And, of course, there were the obligatory rock bands.

After high school I followed the "I want to be a rock star" path. Lots of crappy gigs, lots of partying, lots of groupies and lots of fun. However, I still worked day jobs (pumping gas, waiting tables, etc.) in addition to the bands, the church organist and dance school gigs. I still managed to practice a couple of hours a day. I was fortunate enough to be heard by and have a long discussion with John Hammond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Hammond). That discussion changed my life. He told me, bluntly but kindly, that I would never, ever be a "rock star", whatever that is. However, I had all the makings of a "side man", musical director and arranger. And that is the path that I followed. I also got to know Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads, who advised me that I could spend my time and money partying or spend it on my career, advice I took to heart. I did cover bands and hotel bands (spending my time practicing while my band mates were drinking, drugging and wenching), and worked my way up the ladder to become musical director for the Del Vikings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Vikings).

It was not until I was well established with the Del Vikings in my early 30s that I had anything resembling a personal life. I finally married my long-time girl friend, we bought a house and had our first child.

I was completely career driven until I had reached my goal. But it's only something that you can do when you're young and don't have "responsibilities" (although I did manage to reinvent myself in my 40's when arthritis curtailed my performing career). I was also fortunate enough to get some honest, objective advice from "heavy hitters" in the biz.

The point of all this drivel is to say that now is the time to pursue your dream while you're young. The problem is defining you goal, and knowing when to change your career path. If you want to direct you have to find the place that will present the most opportunities, and then you have to relentlessly, ruthlessly pursue that goal. Everyone believes that they are the next big ______________ (fill in the blank). But at some point you have to honest with yourself, and have something to fall back on.

So sit down and have a long think about your life and your goals; you'll figure it out.
 
I'm at a bit of a personal crossroads, and the ongoing debate with myself has become rather protracted. Now, I'm not so much of a willy-nilly that I'd make such a major decision based solely on the recommendations of people who only know me online. However, maybe somebody on here might point something out that I hadn't considered, yet.

The #1 Goal is to make the next feature. But I'm not going to do the self-funded, ultra-low-budget thing again. I need a "real" budget ("real" enough to hire a competent (albeit small) crew, most importantly, a sound expert and a DP). I realize that achieving this goal may very well take years, though I'm not sure what the shortest path to that end is.

At some point, I'll be moving to LA. The question is this -- make feature film first, or move to LA first?

On one hand, in Richmond I'm a relatively big fish, in a little pond. In LA, I'd be a tiny fish, in a huge pond. Might I have an easier time finding a financier, if I'm not competing with the entire population of the greater metropolitan Los Angeles area?

On the other hand, I've also considered the possibility that perhaps one great strategy to making the goal of the feature happen would be in aligning myself with one or two other people who would be just as interested as I am in making the feature happen.

Specifically, what if, prior to even searching for financing, I can find a talented DP who is willing to take on co-producer status, and make all of the same sacrifices and commitments of time that I am, without any promise of big paycheck? What if I were able to do the same thing with a talented sound recordist? I think a small team of co-producers, made up of myself, a DP and a sound recordist, would have a much easier time finding financing, than just me.

In that respect, if aligning myself with other talented and committed filmmakers is what is needed to make the end-goal happen, then I think it's a pretty obvious choice to move to LA, ASAP.

Anything I haven't considered? Your thoughts?

Thanks, and cheers!

You say you want to hire a real DP and soudman for your next project. I'm just curious, were your previous ones not experienced enough, to wanna use again or something?
 
You say you want to hire a real DP and soudman for your next project. I'm just curious, were your previous ones not experienced enough, to wanna use again or something?

That is correct. My previous DP and sound guy were quite shitty. They're lucky I didn't fire them, halfway through the job. But, hey, they worked for free.

Oh, and by "my previous DP and sound guy", I'm talking about myself.
 
There are DPs, sound recordists in VA. There are people all over the country looking for people right around the corner.

Search the net for VA film makers; you can't be the only one. Make contacts. My DP makes movies because he's a retired cop and he wants the experience. He comes complete with crew, and all I have to do is pay for expenses. I found him from craigslist.

They're out there.

You can do the same thing in LA. But, in LA you need a new job. They're not easy to come by at the moment. The available ones won't pay your rent. So, expect to board with other starving artists.

I don't know whether you can do this or not. If you have a place to come back to in VA, and you have the money to go to LA for a while. Try it out, if you really want to. If it doesn't work out, you go home and do it from VA. But, know the money you spend to get to LA, find a place, a car... can be spent finding film makers and artists to work with in VA.

It really just depends on what you really want. If you're still in your 20s or 30s, now’s the time to take chances. Because when you reach your 40s, married with kids, there's a lot more to consider, and it's that much harder.

Have you considered moving to Jersey? There's a population of film makers here. Plus it's a stone's throw from NYC. The reason I say Jersey is, the rent is affordable as opposed to NYC where it’s outrageously high.
 
That is correct. My previous DP and sound guy were quite shitty. They're lucky I didn't fire them, halfway through the job. But, hey, they worked for free.

Oh, and by "my previous DP and sound guy", I'm talking about myself.

Oh okay. If I may ask, was your film affected at all by it? Did any critics at the festivals care about the sound or picture quality as particularly out of curiosity?
 
Guns N Roses saved money when they first moved to LA by living in a storage shed. I read that in the Slash book. It was pretty interesting.
 
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Actually Slash lived in California before GNR formed. Not sure what Highschool. Axl and Izzy are from Indiana orginally. Not sure where Adler came from. Duff was from Seattle area. Another interesting note is that Slash dropped out of high school in eleventh grade according to his website.

According to Slash's book the band lived in the storage shed and practiced in it. After gigs they would throw parties in the shed with the fans. I think Slash's book would make one heck of a movie.

Here is the book I was talking about http://www.amazon.com/Slash/dp/0061351431/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314468207&sr=1-1
 
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I could take it point by point:

“Its high cost of living demands a well-paying job, while filmmaking requires flexibility, but the two rarely go together.”
Yet most people in LA do not have well-paying jobs, choosing to
find transient jobs that allow flexibility.

“Even if you’re well-off, the congestion and state of atrophy in LA is sure to zap your creative energy.”
Then work harder to keep your energy up.

But why bother? This guy is clearly unhappy. Okay, one more I just
couldn’t resist:

“People like me, trying to make a movie for virtually nothing are viewed as pariahs, beggars and wannabes.”
Because too many people like him are beggars and wannabes. There
are dozens of no-budget movie being shot in Los Angeles every
week. Some can do it without being beggars and wannabes. Most
cannot. That is not the fault with the area, but the fault of the
person.

This guy has pointed out each and every problem that needs to be
overcome by a tenacious, dedicated filmmaker. And I agree with him
totally. For every one of you thinking of moving here to make
movies - STAY HOME!
 
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This guy has pointed out each and every problem that needs to be
overcome by a tenacious, dedicated filmmaker. And I agree with him
totally. For every one of you thinking of moving here to make
movies - STAY HOME!


Less competition if everyone stopped moving to LA. I think it depends on what you want to do in the movies. If you have the skills and the right niche you may be good to move to LA. For instance a good DP, good actor/actress may have a chance.

Maybe your better off getting experience in the film industry in another city then using that to open doors in LA. As some have said you need a track record.
 
I could take it point by point:

“Its high cost of living demands a well-paying job, while filmmaking requires flexibility, but the two rarely go together.”
Yet most people in LA do not have well-paying jobs, choosing to
find transient jobs that allow flexibility.

“Even if you’re well-off, the congestion and state of atrophy in LA is sure to zap your creative energy.”
Then work harder to keep your energy up.

But why bother? This guy is clearly unhappy. Okay, one more I just
couldn’t resist:

“People like me, trying to make a movie for virtually nothing are viewed as pariahs, beggars and wannabes.”
Because too many people like him are beggars and wannabes. There
are dozens of no-budget movie being shot in Los Angeles every
week. Some can do it without being beggars and wannabes. Most
cannot. That is not the fault with the area, but the fault of the
person.

Well said!
 
Hell yeah



I could take it point by point:

“Its high cost of living demands a well-paying job, while filmmaking requires flexibility, but the two rarely go together.”
Yet most people in LA do not have well-paying jobs, choosing to
find transient jobs that allow flexibility.

“Even if you’re well-off, the congestion and state of atrophy in LA is sure to zap your creative energy.”
Then work harder to keep your energy up.

But why bother? This guy is clearly unhappy. Okay, one more I just
couldn’t resist:

“People like me, trying to make a movie for virtually nothing are viewed as pariahs, beggars and wannabes.”
Because too many people like him are beggars and wannabes. There
are dozens of no-budget movie being shot in Los Angeles every
week. Some can do it without being beggars and wannabes. Most
cannot. That is not the fault with the area, but the fault of the
person.

This guy has pointed out each and every problem that needs to be
overcome by a tenacious, dedicated filmmaker. And I agree with him
totally. For every one of you thinking of moving here to make
movies - STAY HOME!
 
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