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FREE IDEA (the best movie ever)

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wheatgrinder

How about a riff off of the Tenacious D song "The best song ever"


Its a movie ABOUT the best movie ever.. (as opposed to BEING the best movie ever)
Could be a fun mocumentary, or a serious expose.. you decide..
 
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sounds about right. Do you think we could start it off like the tenacious d song. One of the interviews the guy is talking about our movie as the tribute except he refers to it as the documentary. But first he kinda tells a story about the best movie ever but the segment ends with "This isn't the best movie ever, this is the documentary ABOUT the best movie ever." Yes, no?
 
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I thought you meant use THE song, not a song like it....oops ;)


finding a local or upcoming band with that sound, and maybe doing a song called "the best film ever", that might work-would that be considered parody?

Thread has been dead awhile, though my understanding is things will be picking up again shortly.. :)

As for footage and where to send it, we may have more of an answer from my end as well. Dreadylocks suggested earlier a basic "cut" of the film, then everyone can grab a copy and we have a competition to see who's "vision" works the best. Someone said to me (I'll let them identify themselves ;)) that this may go in a direction none of us expect ;)
 
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oh yeah we just have to have all the footage and see who puts it together the most interesting (i don't use the term best because i'm sure every cut will be great).

Yes, that would count as parody thus not needing any rights or fees legally except from the band that performs for us. I hope it does go in a direction we don't expect that is always the most fun
 
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"Every resultant is either a sum or a difference of the co-operant forces; their sum, when their directions are the same -- their difference, when their directions are contrary. Further, every resultant is clearly traceable in its components, because these are homogeneous and commensurable. It is otherwise with emergents, when, instead of adding measurable motion to measurable motion, or things of one kind to other individuals of their kind, there is a co-operation of things of unlike kinds. The emergent is unlike its components insofar as these are incommensurable, and it cannot be reduced to their sum or their difference." G. H. Lewes,
 
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maxham said:
sounds about right. Do you think we could start it off like the tenacious d song. One of the interviews the guy is talking about our movie as the tribute except he refers to it as the documentary. But first he kinda tells a story about the best movie ever but the segment ends with "This isn't the best movie ever, this is the documentary ABOUT the best movie ever." Yes, no?
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check the OP. Thats exactly what this started out as :) make it so
 
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wheatgrinder said:
that said.

Lets start having folks upload there content to an FTP server..
take it away Tin!
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Wow, ummmm....

I loved the book?! ;)


Bear with me as I'm new to this too, but I'll get an email up shortly, I guess they could be mailed to me in an email. I also have an account with yousendit, should you choose it that way. you could send footage that way which I could download. Let me finangle the fine details and I'll keep you all up to date and when/how/where/who/why/what, ect ;)

Basically, as been discussed, I'll put together the "rough" pieces into some sort of eventual rough cut, and fire off to anyone who wants a shot at editing to their own vision, and we'll work out some way for everyone to figure which one they like the best (they'll all be good, of course! I expect nothing except ABSOLUTE PERFECTION!)


Mine just goes without saying :P
 
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Tinalera holds the keys to the FTP site. Make PM contact with Tinalera for access and the particulars.

I think that maybe anonymous access for downloading would be OK, but uploads should require a password.


(whops, did I speak too soon?)
 
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Tinalera, you shouldn't have to manage this beyond granting access and shutting it down if we go over space limits. People could be allowed to upload directly, with a user name and password. It can be shared, some trust will be required. If theirs a problem.. somebody uploads some kiddie porn or what not, then you can just pull the plug..
 
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wheatgrinder said:
Tinalera holds the keys to the FTP site. Make PM contact with Tinalera for access and the particulars.

I think that maybe anonymous access for downloading would be OK, but uploads should require a password.


(whops, did I speak too soon?)
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Like I said, I have to work out the details, but you didn't speak too soon :) I already mentioned the yousendit. If someone has a preferable idea as to which FTP site, or how we should do it, feel free. Obviously one that is free to join would probably be best. The other thing, if you want send your clip as file via an email (you can trust me, I won't steal anyone's work-you would have your own copy anyway ;)), I can upload them to my computer, put them together and then mail/xfer the completed file. Now I work on Premiere, and everyone probably has different editing programs. Wondering if I should send it as an FTP, or even like a wmv or other?

Let me know.
 
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Alright-I'm on the job as far as FTP! It sounds like some people are still getting their stuff together, so there's no hurry. I'll have more info for you in a day or so. I've got a couple of options I'm looking at.

Whatever I choose, it will be something that meets the downloading/uploading that we want to do.

I'll keep you posted!
 
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Tinalera said:
Try this again......



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDKZdvmXFgc



There! If you want to edit yours now, you can Dready! Thanks for the help!
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Ok, so putting sound aside (you're right ADR would be the easiest thing with the mask), actually I'm surprised how well your on-cam mic picked up sound at all, given that you're talking through a mask.

I think the window could be more in the shot, but it doesn't need to be. I didn't have a problem figuring out what's going on.

Your only problem I think would be lighting. I know you said your LCD on the camera makes it appear brighter, are you able to adjust the brightness of your LCD screen so that it mimics more of the final product when uploaded?

Is the light behind you meant to be a backlight or a background light? If it's meant to be a back light I would move it up higher (it's ok if there is a lamp in the frame) and perhaps closer or else use a brighter bulb, and maybe do something to difuse the light more evenly so it's not clear where the light is coming from (unless you've got it in the shot, of course).

For the key and fill lights, you say you use regular lamps and daylight bulbs(I do too), where did you put them and how many did you have for this? I would put the backlight on the the left side and higher up, the key light from the right (using a bright bulb, w/ or w/o diffusion) and a much softer fill on the left. One way I think you could make the fill light interesting is if you can get the light outside your window. Do you have those blinds are a bunch of horizontal things that can rotate to let light in or block it (I'm sure they have a name, having a brainfart right now)? If so this could add an interesting light and tension, kinda film noir style.

I definitely like the story and how it ends with you having to run off. How much of this did you improv on camera?
 
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Just thought I'd say hi to the thread as it's active again. I haven't forgotten about this project. I've been doing a storyboard of my 'fiction/narrative' idea, just waiting for the weather to get more consistent to make a trip to the burbs worthwhile (it was in the 70's-90's this last week and then last night we got snow?! I <3 the midwest :( ).

I'm also writing out a couple 'interviewee' clips that I think will be fun. One is gonna be a tweenage girl (lol, me in pigtails) in her jammies sitting on a bed with a stuffed animal and talking excitedly about sneaking out with her friends to see the film.

The other will be a cliche beatnik/euro artist/critic type all in black and a beret at first seeming to be the dissenting voice, and then it turns out s/he has actually been singing the films praises. I've been working on my green screen and I plan to use it to just change it to a black background and then I'll can add a spotlight and if all goes to plan, make it look like it might be an empty stage or studio.

I've got another project in the works, but I tend to be more productive when I've got a lot of pots boiling so I hope to get something related to this up soon :)


Oh, and uploading-wise. I can host a little less that 2 gigs on my server, so emailing me a file is fine. If not, I'll create an html page and I'll aggregate the links from their various sources.
So if you want to send me a clip to upload, email me at sammi@sammigirl.com. Please put indietalk clearly in the subject or I may miss it.

Anyone else can just post links here and I'll compile them into one page. Or if we're doing the shared account somewhere, I can get the links from there, too :)
 
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I'm do a seperate response for each post :)



Dreadylocks said:
Ok, so putting sound aside (you're right ADR would be the easiest thing with the mask), actually I'm surprised how well your on-cam mic picked up sound at all, given that you're talking through a mask.

I think the window could be more in the shot, but it doesn't need to be. I didn't have a problem figuring out what's going on.

Your only problem I think would be lighting. I know you said your LCD on the camera makes it appear brighter, are you able to adjust the brightness of your LCD screen so that it mimics more of the final product when uploaded?

Is the light behind you meant to be a backlight or a background light? If it's meant to be a back light I would move it up higher (it's ok if there is a lamp in the frame) and perhaps closer or else use a brighter bulb, and maybe do something to difuse the light more evenly so it's not clear where the light is coming from (unless you've got it in the shot, of course).

For the key and fill lights, you say you use regular lamps and daylight bulbs(I do too), where did you put them and how many did you have for this? I would put the backlight on the the left side and higher up, the key light from the right (using a bright bulb, w/ or w/o diffusion) and a much softer fill on the left. One way I think you could make the fill light interesting is if you can get the light outside your window. Do you have those blinds are a bunch of horizontal things that can rotate to let light in or block it (I'm sure they have a name, having a brainfart right now)? If so this could add an interesting light and tension, kinda film noir style.

I definitely like the story and how it ends with you having to run off. How much of this did you improv on camera?
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I just figured out the other day about the dimming of the flip screen
I've got it dimmed now so what I see is what the camera is seeing, so that makes it easier :)

Originally, it was meant to be a back light, but that kind of changed. As far as background light, I can move it higher(and yea I use daylight bulbs) my thing was, that image was actually adjusted in editing, the image was a TOTAL silloutte, and I figured I'd like to have the mask some visible, if dimmed. I wanted to put the idea this person just doesn't want to be dimmed, they wanted the mask and the sunglasses, going totally over the top as far hiding :lol:

I'd love to put a lamp outside, but I don't think there's an outlet, I can check (love to have the filtered slights through the slats like you said....film noir. I wish I had some way of creating a red flickering effect of torches!

I'm pleading the fifth of how much I improved;) Seriously, wrote out a rough idea of what I wanted, and improved where necessary-I have a bit of a background in theatre, where improv-ing is a MUST. As far as the ending, what works better? A freeze with the idea a narrator would say something about whereabouts unknown, or just going to snow/noise?
 
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Dreadylocks said:
Just thought I'd say hi to the thread as it's active again. I haven't forgotten about this project. I've been doing a storyboard of my 'fiction/narrative' idea, just waiting for the weather to get more consistent to make a trip to the burbs worthwhile (it was in the 70's-90's this last week and then last night we got snow?! I <3 the midwest :( ).

I'm also writing out a couple 'interviewee' clips that I think will be fun. One is gonna be a tweenage girl (lol, me in pigtails) in her jammies sitting on a bed with a stuffed animal and talking excitedly about sneaking out with her friends to see the film.

The other will be a cliche beatnik/euro artist/critic type all in black and a beret at first seeming to be the dissenting voice, and then it turns out s/he has actually been singing the films praises. I've been working on my green screen and I plan to use it to just change it to a black background and then I'll can add a spotlight and if all goes to plan, make it look like it might be an empty stage or studio.

I've got another project in the works, but I tend to be more productive when I've got a lot of pots boiling so I hope to get something related to this up soon :)


Oh, and uploading-wise. I can host a little less that 2 gigs on my server, so emailing me a file is fine. If not, I'll create an html page and I'll aggregate the links from their various sources.
So if you want to send me a clip to upload, email me at sammi@sammigirl.com. Please put indietalk clearly in the subject or I may miss it.

Anyone else can just post links here and I'll compile them into one page. Or if we're doing the shared account somewhere, I can get the links from there, too :)
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Sounds like you're probably more along then I am for filing. The HTML page might be better (I myself was looking at something like geocities), the idea we can download to that site, and then when a rough cut is made for us to edit, we'd able to upload the copy. We would all be using some sort of same password to access the site. So if it's okay with Wheatgrinder, I say just pass the stuff to you on an HTML page.


My stuff is in letterbox, and keeping in that format would help majorly! I'll also tinker around with your suggestions. Like I said, sound is a bit of an issue(though thank you for the compliment on the camera mic, maybe it's I'm just loud:lol: I'll put up a bit newer version, see which one seems to work better.


As far as people doing a voice over with a bit better sound, that's fine. I'd like to try and keep her story pretty much the same-but I'm sure people could REALLY come up with interesting sounding voices :D
 
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