Studios are not in the film biz anymore.

The people don't want good movies, they want entertaining ones.

Again, an oxymoron... whether or not you like the big blockbusters, whatever your preferred genre of film is, you are entertained by something. For example, I'm entertained by a very well-written and funny comedy. Some are entertained by a deep, emotional drama. Some are entertained by romance.

That's why indie filmmaking exists and always will.

Then why do most indie films suck?
 
Again, an oxymoron... whether or not you like the big blockbusters, whatever your preferred genre of film is, you are entertained by something. For example, I'm entertained by a very well-written and funny comedy. Some are entertained by a deep, emotional drama. Some are entertained by romance.

Agreed. When I watch a film, I want to be entertained.

FILM IS ENTERTAINMENT

Then why do most indie films suck?

What?
 
Latest horror faves of mine are 'Warm Bodies', 'The Cabin in the Woods' and 'Tucker & Dale vs. Evil.'

The rest are largely missable that I couldn't honestly recommend anyone watch, with the exception of the following for technicals only:
'The Possession' for color grading.
'Silent House' for minimalist cast & location + pseudo-real time.
'The Devil Inside' marketing a sh!t film.
'Rubber' what can you do with a DSLR.
 
Latest horror faves of mine are 'Warm Bodies', 'The Cabin in the Woods' and 'Tucker & Dale vs. Evil.'

The rest are largely missable that I couldn't honestly recommend anyone watch, with the exception of the following for technicals only:
'The Possession' for color grading.
'Silent House' for minimalist cast & location + pseudo-real time.
'The Devil Inside' marketing a sh!t film.
'Rubber' what can you do with a DSLR.

Agreed. Also, here's a very neat article on The Devil Inside if you'd like to take a look:

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/artic...drives-devil-insides-box-office-success-34232

I thought The Conjuring and The Innkeepers were two good recent horror films as well.
 
I didn't get into filmmaking to entertain. I got into it to express my art and to inspire and provoke thought in others. If they are also entertained as a side effect, all the better :)
 
If I want to stimulate an emotion or fill someone with the urge or ability to do something through the art of film - then I have to wisely use moving or still images as well as sound to take hold of and manipulate an audience's mind. If you want your film to appeal to people, and then they come out feeling differently, or come out as a changed person... don't you have to write and execute a gripping story that the viewers can both relate to, and on some level - be watching in anticipation, watching and listening to every move the character takes. You have to create interesting characters and set up a powerful or suspenseful situation to grab the audience, and keep that film in their mind. If you want to affect people, you have to pull them into the story. But what results from setting up powerful situations, creating interesting characters, and moments/pacing that keep the audience watching? ENTERTAINMENT!!! While entertaining an audience may not be the motivation behind the creation of your film, if you successfully inspire and provoke thought in others, then you're sure to entertain them.

Can you give me some examples of "good" films that are not entertaining?
 
Really? Which indie filmmakers said that? Why indie films? You could say that about any type of film in general. You could say that about any form of art.

Yes, I could say that about any type of film, but indie films fall under the same genres that studio films do, horror, action, comedy, etc.... if you were to pick apart what is wrong with film types, that would include indie

Indie films are not always produced by professionals who wish to work outside of "the industry"

Most are produced by students, hobbyists, and amateurs who thought they had a great idea and could afford a miniDV cam.

Not to mention, they often feature a cast of less-than-talented "actors" reading a script written by a less-than-talented writer.


Sure, there are gems, but they appear fewer and further between than gems produced by the studios.
 
Yes, I could say that about any type of film, but indie films fall under the same genres that studio films do, horror, action, comedy, etc.... if you were to pick apart what is wrong with film types, that would include indie

You can categorize films by things beside genre. But anyway...

Indie films are not always produced by professionals who wish to work outside of "the industry".

Okay... so? What do we label as a professional?

Most are produced by students, hobbyists, and amateurs who thought they had a great idea and could afford a miniDV cam.

Indie is such a a broad term. Troma films can be considered indie, and Mud, Way Way Back, Blue Jasmine, Bling Ring, Much Ado About Nothing, The East, and Blackfish can also be considered indie. There are horrible indie films, and fantastic indie films. Just like there are horrible studio films and great studio films.

Not to mention, they often feature a cast of less-than-talented "actors" reading a script written by a less-than-talented writer.

True. But there are indie films that... read above (Mud, Blue Jasmine, etc.).

Sure, there are gems, but they appear fewer and further between than gems produced by the studios.

I've haven't heard of/seen many good studio films with a wide release recently.

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For the most part, we're arguing opinions. Which is somewhat pointless, but why not :)
 
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