Should movie makers follow the trail of people with no regrets, or make their own way?
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@Dean Jay -
well, I'm not taking sides here, but to be fair, I have seen some evidence that Fetus does go out there and do some good work. Asking about someone's credentials is fair play, in a professional debate, but much less so in a personal disagreement about a non professional topic. I think the reason most of us don't pull rank based on our various accomplishments is simply that it's impolite. Obviously I've done it before, because....... there are good days and bad days, lol. I don't have a good reason and frequently speak more out of emotion than logic, not my best work.
They weren't really insulting you, they were just saying that your question wasn't clear enough, and didn't have enough context or detail for them to provide a good answer. When I get a lot of negative feedback on something, I sometimes get defensive, that's natural, but over time I've learned that often the quality of replies I get to X are closely linked to the time and thought that I put into the question, the product, etc. Asking questions and trying to learn is always a good thing, but people get frustrated when questions are too vague, so my suggestion is to simply try painting a more complete picture next time.
"Why no stop signs?" could for example be rephrased as "why is it so rare to see someone stop at a stop sign in a movie"
The first version forces people to ask many more questions before they can give you a clear answer. The second version is easy to answer. "because film is about drama, and there is nothing dramatic about following traffic safety guidelines"
@The Lone Banana
I don't think Dean is a troll, he just has a "minimalist" way of communicating. He's always been a friendly and upbeat presence here, and the only time I see him get angry with anyone is just out of frustration that people don't understand how he communicates. I totally understand all the responses here, but I also understand Dean's perspective. He's trying to learn to communicate better, and is told that people can't help him communicate better until he can communicate better. That would be objectively frustrating for anyone I think. I thought you were a troll the first time I read some of your posts, but later recognized a pattern that didn't really match a description that reductive. Indietalk usually weeds out the real trolls pretty quickly, one devastating and inscrutable gif at a time, lol.
Honestly, I don't see how anyone can accuse Dean of being a dick while I'm around. I'm horrible. I pray in earnest for the unfortunate souls that have had the staggering lack of fortune to encounter me, lol. I'm just saying, we've all gotten frustrated, or been rude at one time or another, and might be wise to pay forward a bit of forgiveness, just in case we might need it ourselves on some rainy migraine day when we aren't at our best.
Hold on a sec @indietalk I'll save you the trouble -
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well, I'm not taking sides here, but to be fair, I have seen some evidence that Fetus does go out there and do some good work. Asking about someone's credentials is fair play, in a professional debate, but much less so in a personal disagreement about a non professional topic. I think the reason most of us don't pull rank based on our various accomplishments is simply that it's impolite. Obviously I've done it before, because....... there are good days and bad days, lol. I don't have a good reason and frequently speak more out of emotion than logic, not my best work.
They weren't really insulting you, they were just saying that your question wasn't clear enough, and didn't have enough context or detail for them to provide a good answer. When I get a lot of negative feedback on something, I sometimes get defensive, that's natural, but over time I've learned that often the quality of replies I get to X are closely linked to the time and thought that I put into the question, the product, etc. Asking questions and trying to learn is always a good thing, but people get frustrated when questions are too vague, so my suggestion is to simply try painting a more complete picture next time.
"Why no stop signs?" could for example be rephrased as "why is it so rare to see someone stop at a stop sign in a movie"
The first version forces people to ask many more questions before they can give you a clear answer. The second version is easy to answer. "because film is about drama, and there is nothing dramatic about following traffic safety guidelines"
@The Lone Banana
I don't think Dean is a troll, he just has a "minimalist" way of communicating. He's always been a friendly and upbeat presence here, and the only time I see him get angry with anyone is just out of frustration that people don't understand how he communicates. I totally understand all the responses here, but I also understand Dean's perspective. He's trying to learn to communicate better, and is told that people can't help him communicate better until he can communicate better. That would be objectively frustrating for anyone I think. I thought you were a troll the first time I read some of your posts, but later recognized a pattern that didn't really match a description that reductive. Indietalk usually weeds out the real trolls pretty quickly, one devastating and inscrutable gif at a time, lol.
Honestly, I don't see how anyone can accuse Dean of being a dick while I'm around. I'm horrible. I pray in earnest for the unfortunate souls that have had the staggering lack of fortune to encounter me, lol. I'm just saying, we've all gotten frustrated, or been rude at one time or another, and might be wise to pay forward a bit of forgiveness, just in case we might need it ourselves on some rainy migraine day when we aren't at our best.
Hold on a sec @indietalk I'll save you the trouble -
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GIF dispersal is an arena of the high tech world that I'm woefully undereducated in. This is true, posting GIFs on this forum was the first time I ever used a gif, and that was just to keep up with advanced gif deployment specialists such as yourself and Sean. I doubt I'll ever have the skills to compete professionally, but I'm giving it a go with my clunky embed postings!Also I'm surprised as a techie you don't just click the GIF button to insert giphy
So where is the "GIF" button? I see UPLOAD, CREATE, TWITTER, FACEBOOK, SHARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, TILE, FULLSCREEN, CREATORS LINK, TOPIC LINK, and a few other buttons, but absolutely no button labeled "GIF". I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, I don't use this page really. Can you just point it out?
This whole time I had assumed you were the photographer, travelling from town to town capturing these images of Affleck personally. lol.
Ok, I understand the problem now. I was looking for the button on Giphy, and you were describing this forum editor.
Whenever I hear someone say, "I have no regrets," I think: "What species are you?"
Hoping 
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I actually had vertigo for two days straight recently, I was getting a bit worried and did a blood draw.
I was so dehydrated that it altered the viscosity of the blood coming out of my veins, shit I have not been taking care of myself.
So I've been drinking a lot of water for a couple days and I'm better now, no more vertigo.
I'm just happy that
I was so dehydrated that it altered the viscosity of the blood coming out of my veins, shit I have not been taking care of myself.
So I've been drinking a lot of water for a couple days and I'm better now, no more vertigo.
I'm just happy that
I may be wrong, but the question works a little better for me if I put a comma between people and with. Or maybe:
Now it is the move maker who doesn't regret imitating others, without care or conscience, and not the people themselves who are regret-less.
Although I kind of like the idea of "the people with no regrets." Who are these people? I'm pretty sure there are some around, and they may be people without conscience--hacks, in the other sense of the question--but they may also be people who are admirable, even evolved--after all, the plain and obvious truth is that the past is the past, what's done is done, and i can imagine people stable enough to understand and accept that, perhaps, whenever they did whatever they did, it was the best, at the time, they could do. I don't know.
Or, The Path of the People with No Regrets could be a self-help book, from some self-help guru. Again, I don't know.
Or, Maybe an actual path, called the path of the people with no regrets, in some post-apocalyptic high-concept sf thriller. As always...
anyway.
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Oh, and as an answer to the question:
It depends on one's goal. If it is to be an artist, then of course the latter. If it is to just make a product (and nothing really wrong with that) then it doesn't matter.
Samuel R. Delany, in About Writing: Seven Essays, Four Letters, & Five Interviews, writes this:
It depends on one's goal. If it is to be an artist, then of course the latter. If it is to just make a product (and nothing really wrong with that) then it doesn't matter.
Samuel R. Delany, in About Writing: Seven Essays, Four Letters, & Five Interviews, writes this:
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