Kubricy

Anytime I have a discussion about the Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences and their little award ceremony I
always wonder how can they be taken even remotely seriously
when they never gave Kubrick or Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar.
 
Ernest Worthing said:
Perhaps not at the very beginning but soon after he was the kind of person who would rather not have the movie made if it couldnt be made properly.

Im no Kubrick but i do "suffer" from that a bit and sometimes have to remind myself to just go out there and shoot instead of waiting for the perfect circumstances.

EDIT: Besides, if you're wanting, you can always watch A Clockwork Orange ;)
Click to expand...

Ive heard that Kubrick had consider reinventing modern porn. I cant recall the name right now but i really truly wish he would have done that.

And youve actually sort of compelled me to. Maybe when im real old. Ill watch it then die. Cirlce complete.
 
directorik said:
Anytime I have a discussion about the Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences and their little award ceremony I
always wonder how can they be taken even remotely seriously
when they never gave Kubrick or Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar.
Click to expand...

The Academy has been lacking at times but i dont think that means we can not take them seriously. Their decisions and choices shouldnt be taken as the word of god but they do serve a good and important purpose imho of showing why certain movies are considered above the everyday trash.

Kubrick and Hitchcock were both nominated several times and even though Kubrick was ahead of his time i dont know why Hitch didnt get one.

Btw, i do think Scorcese won with The Departed only bc they realized they should've given him an oscar earlier and they were just making up for it.
 
directorik said:
I always wonder how can they be taken even remotely seriously when they never gave Kubrick or Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar.
Click to expand...

Because giving an Oscar to either one of them would have meant that you couldn't give out any more Best Director awards? There is nothing better that that?
 
directorik said:
Anytime I have a discussion about the Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences and their little award ceremony I
always wonder how can they be taken even remotely seriously
when they never gave Kubrick or Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar.
Click to expand...

Finally! I agree. But with Ernest too. The films they nominate do deserve it and are better than the everyday film. Very valid point.

But seriously. How many times do they screw it up? Every year im angered. Every year.

I think its better for a director to not win one because then their put in the elite class of winless. Stanley Kubrick, Orson Welles, Hitchcock, Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson(TWBB), ETC.
 
cjnixon said:
And youve actually sort of compelled me to. Maybe when im real old. Ill watch it then die. Cirlce complete.
Click to expand...

If i've changed a persons mind into watching A Clockwork Orange, even if it is later down the road, my superhero alter ego "MovieMan" has done his job for the day!

*does an unrecognizable movie gesture with his hand and flies away*


:lol:
 
PassionPulp said:
Kubrick was nominated for a Razzie in Worst Director for The Shining. My flabber was gasted.
Click to expand...

Kubrick took crap from somebody or other after everything he did. Pauline Kael panned 2001, for crying out loud. Who laughed last?

I've always mused that that was one reason he took so long between films: he had to wait for the rest of the world to catch up to him before leaving us in the dust yet again.
 
Not only has he brought us awesome films but the veriety is stunning. From Sparticus to The Shinning to Lolita. He's no one trick pony. He's a truly gifted storyteller and movie maker.
 
The great thing about Kubrick is he made these great, artistic films in genres that are often dismissed by "art directors". Sci-fi, horror, gangster movies, war movies, etc. Brilliant, difficult movies where people wouldn't expect them. And he coaxed brilliant performances out of actors; even really good actors he brought up a level. One of the local indie theaters used to run Clockwork Orange as part of their summer midnight movie series...on my birthday, every year. It is a shame he didn't do the last chapter of the book (not his fault; it wasn't in the version he read), but still a brilliant movie.

I can't think of any of his films I didn't love, but put me down in particular for Eyes Wide Shut. Also, if you're watching is film, don't skip/miss rewatching AI. It's definitely a Speilberg film, but you can see Kubrick's fingerprints all over it (particularly the midpoint narrative-style change, reference 2001, Full Metal Jacket, etc).
 
JoshL said:
It is a shame he didn't do the last chapter of the book (not his fault; it wasn't in the version he read), but still a brilliant film.
Click to expand...

I loved how Kubricks film ended. I believe that the "happy ending" has somewhat become cliche. Knowing that Alex will go back to his original ultra-violence I think is more of a raw ending and wouldn't have fit much in the film. I do see the book and the film as entirely different. An ending can completely change what a story means. Kubrick, I know, was not looking for a happy ending. The ending he used was indeed much more horrible.
 
The book and the film are both great for different reasons, as you say. Quite often the case, or rather, when they are approached as different rather than one being a poor shade of the other. Kubrick's own Shining is a great example of that.

That said, I think the end of the book is a little more complex, not really a "happy ending" as such. Alex grows up. On his own, despite any attempts to control him, and becomes a normal adult. Furthermore, it shows that before we mature, that ultraviolence is inside of all of us. Parallels can be drawn to Catcher in the Rye. Angsty teenagers love it because it's about an angsty teenager. Missing the point that he realizes that he's like this because he hasn't grown up, and he dislikes himself as much as the adults around him dislike him. Catcher shows an awareness of a stage of maturity throughout, and though Clockwork only shows that at the end, I feel they're pretty related texts. Either way, they're great works of art because, hey, here we are talking about them! And more importantly, THINKING about them and what they mean.

All of that aside, you can't argue with Kubrick's ending. Visceral and stunning. Brilliant work!
 
Uranium City said:
About once a year I do a stiff-legged film festival of Kubrick's entire body of work (including Fear and Desire on a badly bootlegged VHS tape, and his three newsreels).
Click to expand...

Dear Sir,

This is in line with my interests, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter! :yes:

No, seriously. I've never seen Fear and Desire, and I think I've only seen one of the newsreels - having trouble remembering because it was during college, much of which is an unfortunate blur. :no: Ergo, I should watch them anyway. You gotta tell me (hopefully well in advance) if this happens again so I can try to make it.

I grew up on Kubrick. Many of the first movies I remember watching as a child are his; my mom was a massive fan of his work and spent probably most of her spare time watching movies. :cool:
 
Might have to rent a hall, but it would make for a fun gathering. The IndieTalk Stiff Legged Film Festival celebrating the work of Stanley Kubrick. Look for it in 2011/2012.
 
'coup brick" ftw.

[as in the coup d'etat of a brick of gold.. or shit or whathaveyou]

more entertaining than the sorrow and the pity.

I personally get nothing but eery feelings after a first viewing of 2001.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top