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They just kill a guy for not stopping at their command? Nice!
Are we crazy?
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They just kill a guy for not stopping at their command? Nice!
- One person making one decision is not indicative of an entire organization.
- Seeing how the inciting incident is under investigation there are likely details that have yet to be aired in public.
- There are also details that will likely never see the light of day.
- Consider that the firing officer may have had a justifiable reason for a willful shot for the express interest of killing Mr Duggan.
- Consider the officer may have made a genuine judgement error, regrettable as it is.
- Consider Mr Duggan may have provoked the firing.
The rest of you UKers ought to consider getting your cameras out there for some practice documentary recording and editing.
I would - in all of my spare time.
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I don't know whether you're referring to the death of Mark Duggan in which case you might want to take a closer look at the facts. Until an investigation has taken place we won't know whether Duggan was armed or not but he was in a vehicle that exchanged fire with and injured a police officer. It's regrettable that he was shot, especially if he wasn't the one firing, but that's hardly a huge case of 'excessive force'. I don't know about things in Bulgaria but if you shoot at a policeman in the UK you can expect them to exchange fire.
But Ernest is right, it has to be seen in relation to other developed countries and we genuinely don't have any real problem with corruption (especially not of a serious nature) in the police force.
That's what's nice about living in the US; if some moron trespasses on your property with violent intent you have the civil right to go into your closet, pull out your shotgun and blow their brains out.
I don't mean to downplay the situation; it's very bad, and I hope the situation improves.
But just to give you guys a little context, in America, people riot when their favorite sports team wins. We take the crazy-cake.
But just to give you guys a little context, in America, people riot when their favorite sports team wins. We take the crazy-cake.
I was in Vancouver when the Canucks lost the Stanley Cup and the city started rioting. That was nothing compared to what's going on here at the moment.
And we invented hooliganism, btw
Here in Pittsburgh, there have been a number of sports-related shootings and stabbings in recent memory. And some riot-like behaviour, win or lose, in response to Local Sports Team.
That said, the UK footie fans have a bit of a reputation, so I'm not sure we can call an easy win on that one, Cracker
That said, the UK footie fans have a bit of a reputation, so I'm not sure we can call an easy win on that one, Cracker
I had the same 'sports violence' argument with a Colombian...
Suffice it to say that I didn't win that one
Where's Harry Brown when you need him?
I am angry beyond belief 
. These scumbags are robbing and smashing up the City I live in and love.
I live opposite a major target and this is currently covered in private security including dogs. They're outnumbered significantly but are taking positive action and dispersing the teens as they appear, just moving them on. Ironically, private security is more effective than the police, in my experience.
What also makes me angry is the pathetic police response
. We have more than 30,000 police in the capital and what annoys me is if we put half of them in the affected areas, we would have no problems. There is a major logistical breakdown as the police force is unable to put bodies into the affected areas.
We are talking about a few hundred rioters. 15,000 police should be able to deal with them.
The very basis of policing is to prevent crime. They have failed in this respect.
. These scumbags are robbing and smashing up the City I live in and love.I live opposite a major target and this is currently covered in private security including dogs. They're outnumbered significantly but are taking positive action and dispersing the teens as they appear, just moving them on. Ironically, private security is more effective than the police, in my experience.
What also makes me angry is the pathetic police response
. We have more than 30,000 police in the capital and what annoys me is if we put half of them in the affected areas, we would have no problems. There is a major logistical breakdown as the police force is unable to put bodies into the affected areas.We are talking about a few hundred rioters. 15,000 police should be able to deal with them.
The very basis of policing is to prevent crime. They have failed in this respect.
That's delusional at best and detrimental at worst. Detrimental because it creates a sense of safety for the corrupt. The only thing that stops corruption is the fear of getting caught. People are fundamentally corrupt at their core and will screw any system they can, whenever they think they can get away with it.
Hmm... Can't say I agree actually.
I have a fair bit of faith in the fact that people will, on the whole, try and do the right thing. It's out instinct to follow what is right rather than what is wrong and I think that tends to override the urge to commit crimes.
The are 7.5 million people in London. How many of them are out on the streets burning and stealing? Less than a thousand.
Right I'm going to bed...
If I never post on here again... assume that Miranda Kerr has finally left Orlando Blood for me
If I never post on here again... assume that Miranda Kerr has finally left Orlando Blood for me
