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The Painting

It is not, it's kind of like a twilight zone episode.

I actually do a lot of this type of music, I just publish rock and techno stuff more often because I think people like it more.

Just out of curiosity, why would you think it was a silent film? Just the vibe of the music?
 
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Oh, that's just how I made the video. It will all get cut up and used as needed in the actual film. probably 75% of it will never see the light of day, but better to have too much material than too little. It's sort of like raw footage.
 
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It's no "There will be blood", but I was happy with the way it turned out. I started composing back when synth strings sounded...... bad. So it's an amazing time to be alive when quality instrument articulations let you really get across what's going on in your head. It used to be that if you spent 100k on a synth rig, you got legato pizzicato and marcatto if you were lucky, now you really have the full range available, even instrument noises like string scrapes.
 
Getting noir & Hitchcock vibes, nice!

Are there really no 'real' acoustic instruments played, all VST?
Correct. Also I'm using AI synthesis on top of stuff like Kontakt and a large assortment of VST3s. You can do rapid fire development of motifs in a daw with modern orchestral modules, and then add in AI to take it from "Almost but not quite" to "this sounds real". In example the sax parts are the VSTi "embertone sensual sax" which is good for this noir type thing I was going for, and it sounds good, but the super authentic articulations and acoustic blending happen in the AI layer, and then I use Ozone in the final stage for mastering.

here's the demo video for that plugin, you can get a lot of control from the vsti, but if you compare it to the finished product in my video you can really hear the AI working. Just to be clear, I don't use AI to write music, it's bad at it, but it can be magic as part of the mastering stages.


By the way, noir and Hitchcock vibes is word for word what I was going for when I wrote this, so thanks!
 
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Woah, yeah it's quite amazing what can be authenticly reproduced now digitally!
I used to use an automated algorithmic mastering service & was always happy with the results - this would be 10 to 15 years ago, so before the AI boom - but I see that as being technically just a precursor to what's widely available now.
So long as I got my mixes spot on & balanced well as pre-masters, the service did a solid job! Great option when doing zero budget work when it doesn't make sense to spend $50 to $100 on a professional mastering technician 👍
 
I knew it was the score but when he said soundtrack I thought it was individual songs (pieces). I believe since he scored it as one piece it would be called the complete score, and music not used is called unused cues.
 
This would essentially be called a score. Film scores when published are typically published unabridged whereas the final product is more likely to use excerpts as needed. It functions a lot like the footage where you shoot 15 hours of source material and cut it down into a 90 minute movie.

People who buy soundtrack albums want to hear complete songs and soundtrack albums also offered include songs from external artists that were not written for the film. An example would be back to the future where the soundtrack would contain both the famous musical cues composed by Alan Silvestri alongside songs by popular bands that were heard in the movie, such as Huey Lewis and The News's "The Power of Love"

Dependent on the specific movie you might actually have two soundtrack albums, one for scoring music and one for included music. "Dirty Dancing" contained a number of chart hits at the time, and I think for marketability reasons the album released alongside the film predominantly contained those chart hits and little or no score. Alternatively the soundtrack album for Braveheart consisted mostly of James Horner's iconic musical cues.
 
Well, listening to it as background music, I wouldn't have known it was "synthetic" if you hadn't told us, so in that sense (as someone who likes to listen to music, real music) it's impressive. For use in a digital environment it certainly seems to be an acceptable, (relatively?) low-cost solution where - as you say - its purpose is to support the visual presentation and not draw too much attention to itself.
 
Mixed down at the top of the green, it will be virtually indifferentiable from it's 1000's of times as expensive counterpart. Of course part of that is that a lot of the orchestral compositions you've been hearing in studio films have been synthetic for years. In a sense, digital cameras like the Red are a form of synthetic chemical film, vastly cheaper, and at first, not as good.

Today I got my first ever strike from youtube. I uploaded a video from the latest version of my pipeline and it got summarily nuked. I couldn't imagine what was wrong. It turned out that the violation was that it was "too realistic, and could be used to convince viewers that they were watching something that never actually happened" I did some research and it's apparently part of a new initiative youtube is launching out of fear of people engaging in political and news manipulation with synthetic visuals.

With all of these things, over the years, I've talked about trajectory, vision, time. In each case, synthetic alternatives are clumsy and a poor substitute for the real thing. Early days, they mostly fall into the hands of lazy opportunistic people who think they found a magic bullet so they don't have to work or think anymore. This is the story of tech. Then, over time, each breakthrough gets into the hands of more and more people, and amongst them, are some that can see that with real work, and the right attitude, these cheap synthetics can be improved, refined, extrapolated into something genuinely beneficial.

Most people don't have a ton of patience. They look at something the first day, and proudly declare that it's all garbage, and they're right. But the thing they didn't think about at all was where they were ultimately wrong. The trajectory. The multiple factors slowly converging over time to an inevitable moment where that overconfident snap judgement turned into a full blown error.

I don't know how many remember the first digital hollywood films. Mostly shot on the Sony F950, "Collateral" with Tom Cruise, Soderberg's "Contagion". They didn't look too good, and a legion of smirking critics used to laugh off digital cinema as the refuge of the incompetent. 20 years later, All studio films are shot digital. The quality is in many ways better than chemical film, and can perhaps ape it's way through the remaining gap. With the visual AI tech we're collectively moving towards, a blackmagic cine camera kit can become indifferentiable from a 1 million dollar IMAX rig that costs the price of that new digital camera per minute of filming.

With all these fields, all these synthetics in them, the important part to keep your eye on, is the trajectory. I started working with all these technologies, and even building a number of my own 5 years ago (and also 25 years ago), because I knew that they would get better, but that no matter how good they got, you would still need education and experience to use them well. Now, this year, the trajectories are converging, and at the moment that they become viable, I'm not cracking open the book for the first time, trying to get a handle on a massive amount of new information all at once. I'm ready.

From tiny acorns mighty oaks grow.

 
It's a collaborative effort with another forum member, and there's still a lot of work to do on it. The soundtrack was one of the first things that I did just because I was in the mood to do it, and I thought it was cool so I just published it early here to see what people thought. Probably a month or so. This one's going to be made by combining real actors on camera with my tech, so there's a few factors in terms of how long it might take to complete. I haven't done a collab in a while and I like the script so I'm planning to put quite a bit of work into this one, time allowing.
 
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