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Hi all,
I'm quiet a newbie to film making, so far I've only really shot 3 (what to me felt like) major projects.
Our last no budget project is in the end of its post-production. It is essentially a music video in a bit of short film like format.
Because I've done all the pre and post production, I would really apricate it if more seasoned film makers would give me a bit of feedback before it is fully finished
I hope this make sense :)
Thank you
 
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Hey all,
just a quick update. The project got finished up and released I will put the link down below.
Thank you guys for all the feedbacks !! I really appreciate it!

 
Thank you man, thank you for watching it!
I've used a similar system to tilta float
which is a similar system to arri trinity, and they are essentially a hybrid system of gimbals and steadycams.
They take practise, and have a steep learning curve, and depending on the load you put on they required some core strength.
My setup is an extra 20kg/44lbs on me so I had to start doing yoga now....
Well, to be a newbie, you already know a lot about professional gear and it seems like you own a good camera as well, so maybe you aren't really a newbie after all? ;) Anyway, the work is obviously very polished and well crafted. The only kind of criticism I could make is that it doesn't really stand out between all the other good videoclips out there. I mean maybe you could have put a little bit more emphasis on the actors' clothes, giving them some more meaning; or maybe you could've used some more remarkable interiors, to suggest a more complex relationship between the two characters, thus making the video more original and memorable. I don't mean those things are shallow as they are now, just a bit forgettable. But, as I said, it's already a very well crafted work as it is :clap:
 
Well, to be a newbie, you already know a lot about professional gear and it seems like you own a good camera as well, so maybe you aren't really a newbie after all? ;)
Well as a newbie, I can only take that as a great compliment ! :) Thank you

I absolutely agree with your criticism. Unfortunately this was a 0 budget project so all the indoor scenes were shot in our apartment :D But I have to say it was an eye opener, how powerful it can be when things are shot in a story inspiring environment vs. when they are not shot like that.
Thank you very much for the compliments and for watching it!
 
Thank you man, thank you for watching it!
I've used a similar system to tilta float
which is a similar system to arri trinity, and they are essentially a hybrid system of gimbals and steadycams.
They take practise, and have a steep learning curve, and depending on the load you put on they required some core strength.
My setup is an extra 20kg/44lbs on me so I had to start doing yoga now....

Haha, awesome. I've seen those systems being built on youtube. I've tried using a handheld gimbal and it was too heavy without a support arm. Gave up, and now just use handheld camera with stabilization body/lens/post edit. Still want to practice with a gimbal at some point, just because it is widely accepted to operate.

Thank you for sharing.
 
This is not a criticism of the film. It looks great--really great--and represents, I'm sure, a ton of work, which is evident. I like the actor, and a lot of shots are really striking, like the one from above as he washes his hands.

As I said, I am criticizing nothing, and this is just a visceral response that may or may not have any value to you.

But . . . what is it about? Is there a larger story behind this, or, maybe, is the lack of story the story? I don't know. But, and this is just me, If I have to watch people, recently murdered, bleeding to some sacred sounding music, I find myself wanting to know why. That is, i don't find, personally, this kind of violence, this kind of imagery, in itself, entertaining.

But maybe I just don't understand the intent. And for feedback, the guys above are, i have found, trustworthy.
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(a little later)

I said above that I didn't mean to be critical, but, rereading, I sound critical none the less.

I think that, as a piece of film, showing what you can do with film, it is very successful. And within a larger narrative structure, it would be effective, even moving.

I think I am just, constitutionally, a little squeamish,
 
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I feel like with indie film we tend to accomplish things a few at the time, and build on that, as opposed to the studio mandate of a commercial ready project in x months. Each film is a learning experience, reinforcing what works, and making us more aware of which ideas sound better in your head than they look in the finished piece. I can't speak for this guy, but I've found that the time and resources most indies including myself have available to put into a single short film sort of preclude the possibility of a strong narrative. Squid game was about 10 hours. The plot was simple, and we only really got to know a half dozen characters. Try to imagine what that very basic plot would look like in a 4 minute version. Minute one, guy has gambling debts, agrees to enter death game, minute two, forms relationships with 8 people, minute 3, 8 rounds of games are played, and half the main characters die, minute four, the grand conspiracy and those behind it are revealed, including a surprise twist, escape attempt, boss battle, and epilogue. A single scene in that film would have as much time, and thousands of times the resources. Some would say, you know what, I think you could fit that plot into 4 minutes, and I'm sure they could. However, even with the same exact plot points, it wouldn't be good, because what made those plot points good was the way they orchestrated the ebb and flow of tension and interest over time, the one thing that short form filmmakers don't have.

I've seen it done a handful of times, where they were able to convey something particularly striking in just a few minutes, but in 99% of cases, you just try to really nail some aspect, perhaps to demonstrate to others the potential of a larger scale project that actually could support a story.

This may not be A Tale of Two Cities, but people are going to see this guys lighting, framing, and color work, and want to work with him on bigger things. I'm just guessing, but I'd say that's more the point of this piece than specifically telling a memorable story.

None of this is meant negatively towards the op or Spike, I'm just making some general observations about indie film projects.
 

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A Tale of Two Cities

Please, give me a break!

"it was the best of times, it was the worst of times"

if this dude can't make up his mind in the first sentence im not gonna read the whole book


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