i know they exist, but the only ones I can find hav built in DVD recorders and cost a small fortune. are there any that arent so expensive? just the vcr? i get footage from people and would love to be able to edit it, but cant because i dont have a dv converter, and i figure it would be a lot easier to get a firewire vcr so i can record back out to a vcr tape. are there any relativly inexpensive ones out there?