End of the line.

I'm about ready to give up. I see no reason to go on. Nothing positive is going on. There is no motivation to see things through. I'm always giving and receiving nothing in return.

I have months of poverty ahead of me. I'm all alone. i the past there was something to look forward to. I reeady to give up.

I haven't felt this bad since I lost my Mon and a month later got demoted at work.

I have lost the will to fight and carry on. Nothing goes right for me. And, I'm all alone. I'm tired of losing and being all alone.
 
Mike- I'm really sorry to hear you talk this way.

I know that on here we can't understand your personal circumstances and, at the end of the day, it's up to you how you run your life and affairs; but I can tell you off the bat that you've got something going right for you.

I've followed your I, Creator project since the very beginning and, to be honest, I had my doubts about it especially after the Kickstarter campaign didn't work out. But watching what you've put together for the rough cut of the opening scene I'm genuinely impressed. It's not perfect and it needs work but from the fledgling idea you've now got a marketable project.

I can give you any life advise because I'm sure I've never gone through the things you're going through but I would recommend considering revisiting crowdfunding, now that you've got that opening scene to use for the pitch video. Perhaps IndieGoGo would work better for you.

Other than that all I can do is urge you to keep trying if you love what you're doing or move on to something else if you feel like it's run its course. I know that plenty of people who dream of making movies get frustrated by the niggling bureaucracy and hierarchy that prevents them from fulfilling their ambition and, at a point, its time to set that to one side and realise that you might never be able to make the movie in the way you once dreamt you could.

But that should be last resort because you've got something good, Mike, and I hope you realise that even if people are telling you different. I don't know what's prompted this post but don't forget all the time you've spent working on the project when you've been really happy with the way things are going. Filmmaking's a game of ups and downs, you've just got to remember to make the big life decisions when you're right in the middle, not when you're riding high or in a real slump.

Keep trucking :)
 
Quit taking the blue pills.
No.
Not THOSE blue pills.
The other ones.
Take the red pill.

Go see your doctor.
Doc'll give you a scrip for some other pills. Get you outta your bad funk.

It's just chemicals, man.
Sugars are chemicals.
Proteins are chemicals.
Fats are chemicals.
insulin is chemicals.
Serotonin is chemicals.
However, Soylent green is still people, but... after all, people are chemicals. So...



Ever remember being pissed at something but the next day it was like "WTH was I so pissed at?"
Or laughed your a$$ off at a movie only to watch it again a year later and think "WTH was so funny about THAT"?

Same thing.


It all REALLY DOES suck right now.
Yeah! Really! It does.
No sh!ttin'.
For really this time.



But... later you'll be like "WTH was I thinkin'"?

Chemicals are your friends or enemies.



And remember: Poison ivy is all natural. Just because it's natural don't make it good for you.
Kinda like clothes.
Clothes ain't natural.
I never heard of a baby being born wearing blue jeans and a t-shirt.
Have you?
H3ll, no.
That's why I'm typing to you in my birthday suit! :D
 
Mike, my friend. You're having a really bad day and it's best if you allow yourself one of those from time to time. I, for one, think it's actually a normal part of life for creative people when the doubts start setting in and everyone that is presenting works for public approval has doubts. It's just the way it is if you have a pulse.

Was there an event that happened or is the process wearing you down?

You have friends here and it's okay to vent if that's something that would help. Rant on.

John
 
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My advice is to take a walk, leave the project for a week and come back refreshed.

Don't take harmful prescription drugs...
 
Well I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing the final product of IC2!

P.S. I wasn't joking, when I posted that link on facebook. Courage Wolf is really funny! And a good laugh can go a long way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZoPN0pnONg
 
Sounds like a real downer of a day. Just remember good things could be just around the corner. You never know what the future could hold.

When I fell down I just think about how something small would make living another year worth it. For me if a really great cd or movie may come out it is worth living just for that to happen. Hell I hope that I live long enough for that next STP or Soundgarden CD since I love STP and Soundgarden. But hey... maybe I am just being too simple here but it works for me. Another thing is that if you listen to positive music. If you start working out it seems to help to make you fell more positive about yourself.

Any small step twoards a life long goal can make you feel better. Even if it is a very small step. Even if the I-creator 2 is a bust you could make an amazing movie down the road. Think about all the things that you have learned from making movies that could help you on the next film or in other areas of life.
 
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I'm about ready to give up. I see no reason to go on. Nothing positive is going on. There is no motivation to see things through. I'm always giving and receiving nothing in return.

I have months of poverty ahead of me. I'm all alone. i the past there was something to look forward to. I reeady to give up.

I haven't felt this bad since I lost my Mon and a month later got demoted at work.

I have lost the will to fight and carry on. Nothing goes right for me. And, I'm all alone. I'm tired of losing and being all alone.

Is this the back story of the film you're working on?!
Or you just need a hug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3YDxF7gnc
 
My advice is to take a walk, leave the project for a week and come back refreshed.

THIS. :yes:

But hey, you have a movie in the can. That's more than I can say. If you need to, pay a hobo $50 to let you punch him for 60 seconds.:) You will feel better. At least that's what I've heard.:idea:
 
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Sounds like a real downer of a day. Just remember good things could be just around the corner. You never know what the future could hold.

When I fell down I just think about how something small would make living another year worth it. For me if a really great cd or movie may come out it is worth living just for that to happen. Hell I hope that I live long enough for that next STP or Soundgarden CD since I love STP and Soundgarden. But hey... maybe I am just being too simple here but it works for me.

This tactic has gotten me through too. Sorta like what Tom Hanks says in Cast Away...

"You never know what the tide might bring in."

I sure hope to see I, Creator when it's finished. If not I, Creator, then the next thing.

:)
 
Hang in there, man. You are doing great work, and I know what it's like to feel discouraged and depressed. We've all been there, and most of us have war stories and/or wounds. You'll get through it, and feel free to vent here anytime!

That said...
My advice is to take a walk, leave the project for a week and come back refreshed.

Don't take harmful prescription drugs...

This attitude frustrates me. ACTUAL mental illness (not just being down or having an off week) is just that: an illness. Your brain chemistry is fucked up. Your neurotransmitters do not work the way that they are supposed to; you do not absorb chemicals that you need. You can't just "make it better" and the only reason people think that you can is that there is a cultural stigma attached to mental illness. It's insane (no pun intended); people have no better control over, say, an autoimmune disorder. We don't look down on people with lupus for taking meds to keep their body from destroying itself, yet we DO with people with mental illnesses. People get frustrated, I think, because medications maintain, rather than fixing the illness, but again, comparing to autoimmune disorders, right now there is no cure. That doesn't mean treatment is a bad idea.

As far as medications, it is a long road. Part of the issue is, again, the diversity of brain chemistry. A single diagnosis (let's say bipolar disorder) can really mean a myriad of chemical imbalances with the same result in behaviour. This is why there are so many different kinds of medication, and it is a process finding what works for each individual. The science has come a long way, but there's a long way to go. I've seen a lot of people in various stages of treatment. I know those for whom medication A worked fine (ie, not constantly zombie-like, still creative, and more functional than they have been) until they changed other medications, and then medication C was the right answer, but they didn't know until they tried medication B. I know others who are afraid their creativity will "go away", and they define themselves by their illness, so only "self-medicate". I have yet to see an instance where it's a good idea, and where they weren't MORE productive when seeking help (though many cases of wrong medication, and rather than talking to their doctor about it, just stopping taking it and ending up back in the mess they were in before).

I know for many people, this attitude is rooted in mistrust/dislike of big pharmaceutical companies. I can understand that, and relate to that. Things are expensive, but then, so is years of research and development, testing and Federal approval. All of these things are far more complicated than working at McDonalds, and when we're talking about mucking about in people's wiring, VERY important that it is done safely and as well as it can be done. On the business end, there are lots of sleazy practices, but when it comes to the medication, I believe that the people developing it really DO care about making people better. Furthermore, it is capitalism at its' most basic. If a medication is harmful or ineffective, then people will not buy it. Developing something like that is poor business at best, and very illogical.

Of course, some of my perspective comes from being in Pittsburgh, which has some of the finest mental health facilities in the country, more so for providing all sorts of assistance for those with low income (often those who need help the most).

Hearing this sort of attitude over and over is like telling someone with a broken leg to walk it off.

...append to this a rant echoing rayw's sentiments about "all natural" (arsenic is also all natural!) and don't even get me started on the whole "raw foods" movement.

Bah, I'll stop now and apologize. As you can see, sort of an issue close to my heart ;-)
 
Hi-5, Josh.

Exactly.
Our culture is f#cked up.
Broke leg? Go get a cast.
Having a heart attack? Go take beat regulating meds and anticoagulants.
Sinus infection? Take antibiotics.
Allergies? Anti-inflammatories.
Diabetic? Take insulin.

But GOD FORBID should your brain quit absorbing serotonin or whatnot!
Oh, no! For that sorta sh!t you just gotta "Man up!" and "Quit being such a puss, and toughen up!"

Bah!
Effin' ignorant dumb monkey muthers.
I hate ignorant people.
 
I could say a bunch of crap. But, Dolly says it so much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrEJN8LdKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpSN8rV6-RU
 
We've all hit tough times in our lives. All of the usual platitudes, like count your blessings, seem meaningless at those times in our lives. But they have some merit.

Are you healthy? Yeah? One less worry. Once you're past that hurdle everything else is gravy. I know, I know, it just doesn't seem that way, but is true none the less. How are your relationships and your finances? It's hard to be creative when you have problems hanging over your head. Are the people involved in your projects causing you problems? Maybe you need new "playmates".

As others have mentioned, take a break. Got out and do non-film-related things you love to do or things you normally wouldn't do - hiking, swimming, concerts, visit friends, go to museums - your options are limitless.

Bad feelings are emotionally, spiritually and physically toxic. To counteract that, start with some personal discipline. Stay away from the bad stuff - excessive drinking, drugging and wenching. Set up a good exercise program. Start small and start easy, build it up month by month. Find other small ways to improve your life. It's really hard, I know, I've been there, done that and got the T-shirt. But those small changes make a big difference in your outlook.

As far as your film related activities, after you've taken a break, start with your work space. What can you do to improve your work flow? What can you do to improve the ergonomics? Change things up, make you workspace more comfortable and attractive. And, as a part of your discipline, when you do get back to work, adhere to a schedule of breaks. Get up out of your chair once an hour and stretch, get something to drink, etc. And make sure that you adhere to other workflow disciplines; always do your back-ups, keep your logs up to date, etc. It's a real hemorrhoid at first, but you'll find that it's an enormous benefit down the line.
 
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