Is there any language that can be put in a contract to override SAG?
You heard wrong. The only thing that I can think of is that maybe they might change their mind and back out before the shoot maybe. ???? That's what a deal memo is for. For my non-union film we had all sorts of SAG actors.I've heard that working with a SAG actor can kill your film if it's not a SAG project.
Wow...the only reason you would use a sag actor is for box office draw? Come on? Really? If you're hiring non union actors you are hiring (on average) amateurs. Sure there are a handful of amateurs that get into the union early, but they usually pay dearly when they don't have a resume to back having union status. If you're hiring an actor that isn't union...you're hiring an actor who is doing whatever they can to become union. So even the good non union ones are doing whatever they can to get in.
Yes you can find good non union actors...but that actor's goal is to join the union because that is the only way to make a living as a working actor. Word of warning...if a union job comes along out of nowhere in the middle of your non union shoot...do you think your non union guy wouldn't jump at the chance to go do that other tv one liner? Its not professional but I've seen it happen because they want that card.
With more experience that actor will become union. If you're hiring 20 non union actors for your film...how many are going to be good actors? How many of them will have worked on set? Hell how many will be passable? I'm not saying its not possible...but you get what you pay for.
How often do you go on ebay and get an almost too good to be true deal? Once in a while, right? Same goes here...if you're not hiring pros...once in a while you can grab some great finds...otherwise you're praying that you can edit out anything that isn't great...
You have heard wrong. Working with a SAG actor cannotI've heard that working with a SAG actor can kill your film if it's not a SAG project.
There is no language that will override a guild agreementIs there any language that can be put in a contract to override SAG? I mean can I get an actor to give up their SAG rights while they are filming?
The vast majority of indie films produced in the US are non-union simply because it is so expensive to comply with all the SAG demands.
There are thousands of very good actors who are non-union (see above for further details) either by chance or design but that doesn't automatically make them amateurs.
If you're not going SAG for your whole production I can't see the logic of weaselling and SAG actor in and make their and your life difficult when there are lots of good actors who aren't with the union. Calling them amateurs is not right (so long as the OP casts wisely).
SAG is not policing unit of the movie/TV industry. They do not blacklistAlso, here's a question. If you, as a director/producer, hire union actors in your non union film...and down the road you find funding for a much larger budget movie where you can use star names...Can/Would the union allow you to use their agreement if they knew your previous film knowingly used union actors in a non union film? This is something I truly don't know the answer to. I've never heard of this happening...but is it something that is possible or likely?
Wow...the only reason you would use a sag actor is for box office draw? Come on? Really? If you're hiring non union actors you are hiring (on average) amateurs. Sure there are a handful of amateurs that get into the union early, but they usually pay dearly when they don't have a resume to back having union status. If you're hiring an actor that isn't union...you're hiring an actor who is doing whatever they can to become union. So even the good non union ones are doing whatever they can to get in.
Yes you can find good non union actors...but that actor's goal is to join the union because that is the only way to make a living as a working actor. Word of warning...if a union job comes along out of nowhere in the middle of your non union shoot...do you think your non union guy wouldn't jump at the chance to go do that other tv one liner? Its not professional but I've seen it happen because they want that card.
With more experience that actor will become union. If you're hiring 20 non union actors for your film...how many are going to be good actors? How many of them will have worked on set? Hell how many will be passable? I'm not saying its not possible...but you get what you pay for.
How often do you go on ebay and get an almost too good to be true deal? Once in a while, right? Same goes here...if you're not hiring pros...once in a while you can grab some great finds...otherwise you're praying that you can edit out anything that isn't great...
I want a way to cover my butt in the contract.
I don't know what thread you refer to or what you mean by "involvingOn another thread somebody mentioned a SAG actor lying to get into the production, then involving them later.