Whats my Cameraman / Editor up to?

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derek smith

Recently shot my first Short Film...I funded the Production myself, as well as Writing the Screnplay, I was also Director and have been involved in the Editing. Among the Crew was a guy who was both Camera Man, and Editor....Now heres the thing...I clicked onto his Facebook page for his Production Company, and he has a photo from the Shoot with a Caption saying he is busy working on his Production Companies next Production....Is he taken the piss, or is there no issue? As I will be asking him about it......When it comes to the credits, I want my own PRODUCTION company TO INTRODUCE THE FILM
 
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derek smith said:
he's gay....might be a problem.......but I'm guessing he's taken the piss...funny how he didn't tag me in the photo
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Just pull him up on it, "Hi mate, I couldnt help but notice that you put up a picture of my film wording it as your production, just wanted to clarify what you meant as people may think that you produced the film, thanks"

if the film isnt finished though.. you could end up making him not wanna finish it and withold all the footage, your best bet is to ask for RAW copies first then once you have it all pull him up on it a few days later..
 
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derek smith said:
Recently shot my first Short Film...I funded the Production myself, as well as Writing the Screnplay, I was also Director and have been involved in the Editing. Among the Crew was a guy who was both Camera Man, and Editor....Now heres the thing...I clicked onto his Facebook page for his Production Company, and he has a photo from the Shoot with a Caption saying he is busy working on his Production Companies next Production....Is he taken the piss, or is there no issue? As I will be asking him about it......When it comes to the credits, I want my own PRODUCTION company TO INTRODUCE THE FILM
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What is the issue?

Do you not like what is posted on his Facebook page?
Are you concerned about the wording of the credits on the finished
short film?

In my opinion:

1 - let him post what he wants on his Facebook page. He is clearly
proud of being involved with this movie.
2 - If he will be doing the credits on the film make sure you give him
(in writing) how you want tach credit given. And that includes using
only your PRODUCTION company TO INTRODUCE THE FILM.
 
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What Direktorik says.

Relax.
So, he has a 'production company' and he is working on your project.
I have a production company as well and when I'm hired as an editor/cameraman/director (or volunteering) it is my next/new project as well. Posting it on his Production Company's page doesn't mean he is taking credit for producing it.

He's not stealing your project.
He's just 'showing of' he is busy working on something.
It would have been nice if he tagged you and perhaps others as well.

Was he cool to work with?
Add a comment: "It was cool to have you on my team that day." or something like it.
Join the conversation in a relaxed way. :)

From your recent experiences I can understand you are cautious, but I don't think he will run off with your project :-)
 
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directorik said:
What is the issue?

Do you not like what is posted on his Facebook page?
Are you concerned about the wording of the credits on the finished
short film?

In my opinion:

1 - let him post what he wants on his Facebook page. He is clearly
proud of being involved with this movie.
2 - If he will be doing the credits on the film make sure you give him
(in writing) how you want tach credit given. And that includes using
only your PRODUCTION company TO INTRODUCE THE FILM.
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I had said to him previous it was a shame we didn't get some photos, and he said someone else might have some.....so was wondering why he hadn't tagged me in the photos when he clearly had them......Yeah., its the 'wording' which through me of.....lets say the film is called 'The Saturday Game' and his Production Company is called 'Yellow Star'...the caption was 'Busy working on Yellow Stars next Production'.....I've not issue with anything until it comes to final Product....and yeah your right....I'll just tell him at Credits how I want it to look like....thanks
 
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WalterB said:
What Direktorik says.

Relax.
So, he has a 'production company' and he is working on your project.
I have a production company as well and when I'm hired as an editor/cameraman/director (or volunteering) it is my next/new project as well. Posting it on his Production Company's page doesn't mean he is taking credit for producing it.

He's not stealing your project.
He's just 'showing of' he is busy working on something.
It would have been nice if he tagged you and perhaps others as well.

Was he cool to work with?
Add a comment: "It was cool to have you on my team that day." or something like it.
Join the conversation in a relaxed way. :)

From your recent experiences I can understand you are cautious, but I don't think he will run off with your project :-)
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haha my past experiences are probably playing into it...wanted to ask advice on here, as im a newbie...yeah we get on well, except for odd few moments....theres no fear or anything of him running of with the Project...but thought it was a bit of a piss take
 
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derek smith said:
I had said to him previous it was a shame we didn't get some photos, and he said someone else might have some.....so was wondering why he hadn't tagged me in the photos when he clearly had them......Yeah., its the 'wording' which through me of.....lets say the film is called 'The Saturday Game' and his Production Company is called 'Yellow Star'...the caption was 'Busy working on Yellow Stars next Production'.....I've not issue with anything until it comes to final Product....and yeah your right....I'll just tell him at Credits how I want it to look like....thanks
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So as I understand it it's the Facebook page that is concerning you.
Am I right? And you haven't told him you want to be tagged in the
photos?

Communicate with him. Don't worry about being a "newbie". If
you want him to tag you on his Facebook page ask him to tag
you. It may be as simple as just not thinking of it. It bothers you
so mention it to him. I suspect it's an oversight and nothing more.
But unless you communicate with him you will never know and he
will never know.

So many misunderstanding happen because people don't communicate.
When you expressed your concern (that you would like to be tagged in
the photos) what did he say?
 
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directorik said:
So as I understand it it's the Facebook page that is concerning you.
Am I right? And you haven't told him you want to be tagged in the
photos?

Communicate with him. Don't worry about being a "newbie". If
you want him to tag you on his Facebook page ask him to tag
you. It may be as simple as just not thinking of it. It bothers you
so mention it to him. I suspect it's an oversight and nothing more.
But unless you communicate with him you will never know and he
will never know.

So many misunderstanding happen because people don't communicate.
When you expressed your concern (that you would like to be tagged in
the photos) what did he say?
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yes, its the Facebook page......I only seen the photo on his page (ive previously not been on it) about an hour ago....im meeting him tonight, which is why I wanted a heads up, its no big thing.....might just ask him again bout photos from the shoot, see if he mentions.....but probably just in my wee head
 
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Don't play that game. This concerns you enough that you bring
it up here so don't hope he mentions it. Tell him outright that
you would like to be tagged in the pictures on his Facebook page.
It clearly means something to you. Tell him.
 
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I think you're looking at this the wrong way.

Lets suppose he has 100 fans of his production company. Wouldn't you rather those fans be enticed to watch your film? Isn't it a good thing that he is leveraging his existing followers and reputation to help bring an audience to your film?

As others have said, when the dust settles your production company will be in the credits. And besides, nothing commands more respect in the credits than a dual writer/director credit.

I would start off by thanking him for the post, no matter where else the conversation goes.
 
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sfoster said:
I think you're looking at this the wrong way.

Lets suppose he has 100 fans of his production company. Wouldn't you rather those fans be enticed to watch your film? Isn't it a good thing that he is leveraging his existing followers and reputation to help bring an audience to your film?

As others have said, when the dust settles your production company will be in the credits. And besides, nothing commands more respect in the credits than a dual writer/director credit.

I would start off by thanking him for the post, no matter where else the conversation goes.
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most likely im looking at it wrong....there was just afew things that happened on set, like him saying 'for this scene, I want to take control of', which he was politely told he wouldn't be....and during editing last week, for a Shot where he was sat on the bed holding the camera in a type of first person mode, he said 'really proud of this scene, this was the one I directed', I had to remind him, he was the cameraman for it, nothing more....seeing the Facebook page, it made me wonder if whether he was showing signs of thinking the Production was some sort of combined effort....but not taken it any further
 
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Sweetie said:
Were you a member of his production company page? If not, if memory serves me right, he won't be able to tag you anyway.

I think you may be looking too far into it.
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im not, but it was the fact I asked him about photo's earlier and he didn't state he had any....like you say, looking to much into it......silly thread by myself
 
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I understand your concerns but at the end of the day your name will be on the credits, not his. It's irritating that he would say "this is the scene I directed" when he clearly is just doing camerawork, but I think wasting energy trying to correct an egomaniac is futile. Just make positively sure that if he does start putting his name on it AS the director or producer, then you need to put your foot down. Until then, just enjoy the free publicity and comment on his posts w/ something that people suggested above "It was great to have you on MY production, as a part of MY team" (obviously without caps).
 
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writersandfilmmakers said:
Did you get a deal memo for each cast and crew of your team? LEGALLY speaking, if he shot it (even with your camera), he has rights to it.
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I didn't....it was a self funded production (about 1,ooo)...awk, he wouldn't go that far.....it'll be sorted when it comes to doing the credits....to be honest, it was small production, so didn't prepare any paperwork / contracts for it
 
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