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Polls Open for Wheatgrinders Monthly IT Challenge For April 2011


here are the challenges up for vote:

  • Challenge Name: Indie Talk Resources: Audio Editing Tutorial
  • Challenge Description: Create a simple yet functional audio editing tutorial that covers a single technique on your NLE of choice. Basic or advanced technique, doesn't matter.
  • Challenge Limitations: Less than three minutes. Know that this will or could become part of IT's reference library, even if this is beginning one of sorts.
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  • Challenge Name: Mouth Off
  • Description: either shoot a scene or re-dub existing footage with entire new audio, all coming from your mouth. This includes all music, dialogue and sound effects, multiple layers okay.
  • Limitations: At least 30 seconds, at least 10 different sounds.
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  • Challenge Name: Say it with sound.
  • Description: Use sounds by themselves to tell a story, or to enhance (or create a counterpoint to) visuals.
  • Limitations: You must create the sounds yourself - no using sound FX libraries. No dialog (creating your own "radio" or "TV" announcers are okay).
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  • Challenge Name: Everyday!
  • Description: Capture Sounds which you hear every day. No changing them in post! What do you hear everyday? Try to tell a story with sounds only!
  • Limitations: No Video, Otherwise you are not limited!
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  • Challenge Name: Roley Foley Poley
  • Description: 30 seconds of un-Folied footage and the 30 seconds of the same footage where the meaning is entirely changed, solely through the use of Foley.
  • Limitations: Budget must be less than $4,250,000
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  • Challenge Name: "Dialog Clean Up"
  • Description: Begin with <20 seconds of "junky" dialog you captured in the field followed by both the cleaned up in post version and an ADR re-dub version.
  • Limitations: Less than a minute. Extra points for including a screen capture image of the audio track.
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  • Challenge Name: "Sound FX Fantastica!"
  • Description: Replace common audio expectations with a symphony of preposterous sounds & experiences.
  • Limitations: Less than a minute. Gotta build it all yourself.
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  • Challenge Name: "Just telling you what I heard!"
  • Description: Replace the dialogue in scene from your favorite popular major motion picture.
  • Limitations: Less than a minute. Extra points if there is a chicken in the shot.
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  • Challenge Name: Sound is ALL the Experience
  • Challenge Description: make a short film where the only way to tell what is happening is by listening. So your image might be all macros, or behind the characters, or otherwise shot in a way where you wouldn't be able to tell what was happening if the sound was off. But tell the story relying almost all on audio.
  • Challenge Limitations: No music
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  • Challenge Name: "Gone With The Wind"
  • Challenge Description: "record breaking wind in an inappropriate place\setting, real or fictional"
  • Challenge Limitations: "footage must be included, though quality of video doesn't matter unless you want it to"
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Well, another month has gone by and challenges metered out and met.
check the videos and other chit chat here.. http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?t=29998


The Challenge area for April is Production Audio



So lets do another.. here are the rules\timeline in review..

Here is the time line in review:
  1. "Challenge Area" Announced:
    On the FIRST Monday in April Ill tell everyone what the "Challenge Area" will be (Production Audio) DONE
  2. Suggestion Box Open: DONE
    From that Monday through Thursday everyone suggests specific challenges that support the main focus DONE
    [*]Suggestion Box Closed: DONE
    TODAY I gather up all the ideas that meet my strict yet completely arbitrary criteria and I set up a poll
    [*]Vote: do so now..
    Voting Closed in 48 hours.
    [*]Challenge Details Announced: You could figure it out from the poll winner...
    When the vote is over the challenge is announced.
    [*]Make the movies
    duh
    [*]Upload the movies
    Everyone, and I mean everyone, even if you didn't vote, or are afraid of clowns, has until 11:59 PM on the Sunday before the the first Monday in May to upload



Thats it, everything else is left to your interpretation.

Upload to youtube and post embed in the yet to be created submission thread, preferred, but whatever...


Please Note:
The 1st place prize is nada, 2nd place prize is zilch and 3rd place gets nothin.
There are NO rules, ignore the challenge details if you want, though I reserve the right, and encourage others, to type in all caps..
"BAD FORM! BAD FORM!" if your so tactless as to do something so antisocial as to "topic crash!"


List of possible "Challenge Areas" for next month.


  • [*]Acting\Directing *we done did that one..
  • Cinematography *been thar done that
  • Production Audio (do this now)
  • Pre-Production Planning
  • Visual Effects
  • Editing
  • Writing
  • DIY
 
I've voted (and not for the challenge I suggested I might add, even though someone did vote for it...).

I'm just wondering whether a more structured response system might be good. I understand that you don't want it to be a vote for the best one, or whatever, but if there was a critique system or some sort of vote thing. I'm rambling, but I think that might make it more interesting.
 
NickClapper,
Just for daring to challenge my authority, you get -2500 points, you hear me.. thats NEGATIVE TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED POINTS!!!


just being un-funny again.. lol


But seriously, EVERYONE IS A WINNER IN MY BOOK
 
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I'm entering this month, and I want to warn you all. I came here to drink beer and kick ass. And I'm all out of beer!

Oh, wait, there's my beer.
 
I'm planning on joining in this month, so I decided to vote.

Shame I voted for "Say it with Sound" when I actually meant to vote for "Mouth Off"...
 
sorry mad hatter, but this aint flawida.. you gots to watch your own hanging chad, your vote stands... though the numbers say that if you had voted for the other choice it would have had no impact on the outcome... sorry.. :-)
 
The clear winner is

SAY IT WITH SOUND!



  • Challenge Name: Say it with sound.

  • Description: Use sounds by themselves to tell a story, or to enhance (or create a counterpoint to) visuals.

  • Limitations: You must create the sounds yourself - no using sound FX libraries. No dialog (creating your own "radio" or "TV" announcers are okay).
 
Ok, I'm up for this but I'm not entirely clear what the challenge is...

Can we use visuals at all? I assume we can but they can't in any way tell the story? Are we supposed to choose a random set of images and then make them make sense using sound?

When you say 'create the sounds yourself' does that mean that we (as humans) must create all the sounds or that all the sounds must be create originally for the piece (including computer generated sounds)?
 
NickClapper,
Relax.. please note this clause in the top post..

Please Note:
The 1st place prize is nada, 2nd place prize is zilch and 3rd place gets nothin.
There are NO rules, ignore the challenge details if you want, though I reserve the right, and encourage others, to type in all caps..
"BAD FORM! BAD FORM!" if your so tactless as to do something so antisocial as to "topic crash!"
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so basicaly from here out, its up to you to decide what is right... which is a challenge in itself, we operate on multiple levels of meaning round these parts.
 
Hi, Nick
Understanding the boss' point above, Alcove could give add the best clarity as to the spirit of his intentions with this proposal.

I think it means:
- don't augment a dialog heavy story with sound effects like squeaks and clinks and relatively minor sounds. No Three Stooges, IOW.
- No dialog means a sane person not talking to themselves or two talking heads. A person or persons or whatever doing or not doing something where THE SOUNDS communicate the story.
- Make the sounds yourself. No, not make sounds outta your mouth like Cadet Larvell Jones from POLICE ACADEMY. Make, record and use your own bangs, clangs, stomps, grunts, car noises, and if you dare - gunshots!
- Don't be a wiener and download a bunch of stuff off the internet and pile it all in there.

But I'm just guessin'.

;)
 
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The focus - pardon the pun - is using sounds to best advantage.

You can do a "radio play" without any visuals to tell a story.

You can use any visuals you wish and enhance them with sounds. Something serious or extremely comedic. You can re-Foley/sound FX a movie trailer or scene from a film, use stills; anything goes.

You must create the sounds yourself, no libraries. You can crash your car into a wall, hit yourself on the head with a watermelon, do mouth or armpit farts (or the real thing), drop your wifes dishes on the floor. Of course, you can do traditional Foley and sound FX. "Everyday!", "Mouth Off", "Roley Foley Poley" and "Sound FX Fantastica!" are all possibilities that are included in my scenario.

No dialog, but you could go Gerald McBoing-Boing if you want.

The whole point is to explore the power of Foley and sound FX; and, of course, to have some fun.
 
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extra points awarded if you do a BTS (Behind The Scenes) of your self doing folley or what ever)

and cool, Im doing a mouth off variation..
 
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