New stock from Kodak, 40 years of Super8!

Just annouced today on Kodak's site! Read about the new EKTACHROME 64T.
But they are going to discontiue K40 which I really liked. So it's good news were getting a new stock, but kinda sad we're losing K40. Still taking in this bit of news myself.
 
I thought pro-8 was Kodak stock. (They did the advance testing of the provision stuff, anyways)

There is a new line of Kodak 16mm colour reversal coming out at the ned of this year, too. :cool:
 
Hmm... maybe you're right Zen.. maybe the pro8 stuff is Kodak, but I could have sworn reading something that said it was Fuji. But then, I've been wrong before once or twice. ;)

Anybody know if AGFA still makes motion picture film?
 
yeah, it's 16mm.. 35 would be too big, but 16 is just twice the width, otherwise the same... also you can do "double 8mm" if you've got a camera so equipped for it.. where you would just shoot on 16mm, then rethread the exposed film on backwards and run it through again, effectively getting twice the length out of a film can... only downside is that you have to either have a lab that can/will split it for you, or split it yourself. But, it would probably be a cheaper option for shooting super8... well more cost effective anyway.
 
I thought this might be a good spot to throw this up, since Hail seemed depressed about the prospect of loosing K40..

There is a petition that has been started to try and convince Kodak to continue producing the Kodachrome stock, even if you never have and never plan to shoot on super8 your name on the petition can help save it for those who do! :)

Here is the notice, as forwarded to me this morning:

SAVE SUPER-8:
Signing the online "Please don't discontinue Kodachrome" petition requires
less effort than shooting a roll of it (which you won't be able to do anyway
if Kodak discontinues Kodachrome Super8 stock). Please forward the URL to
all friends and family who share our dismay about this recently announced
decision. It might not be too late!
http://www.petitiononline.com/k40/petition.html

(I'm signee #1198 :D)
 
Thanks for the link Will. I thought something like this would pop up sooner or latter. I'm not sure an online petition will change the mind of the big K, but you never know.

Signee #1240 signing off! :D
 
I signed it, too... though the reality is that if all the people signed up so far were actually using one roll a week, Kodak would not have been wanting to drop it for S-8. :)
 
<< IMPORTANT UPDATE >>

Fresh off the press at [http://www.NYtimes.com]NY Times[/url]...

...with the original article here...

This is clearly good news for Dwayne's, being left as the sole processor... maybe. :cool:

May 31, 2005

'Kodak, Don't Take My Kodachrome'

By SPENCER MORGAN

Paul Simon sang about it. Film students shot on it. Now, advocates are signing up to save Kodachrome, or at least its Super 8 motion-picture version, a 1965 technology that the Eastman Kodak Company would very much like to do without.

Earlier this month, Kodak, based in Rochester, N.Y., delivered a shock to experimental, underground and just plain old-fashioned filmmakers when - one day after a May 8 celebration called Global Super 8 Day - it announced plans to discontinue its low-speed, fine-grained Kodachrome Super 8 film in favor of a new Ektachrome Super 8 product.

For those caught up on the digital revolution, the announcement was easily missed. But to film geeks around the world, Kodak might as well have declared the death of color.

"Kodachrome is larger than life," said Andrew Lampert, a filmmaker and film archivist at the Anthology Film Archives in Manhattan. "Its colors are brighter than your imagination's. And what's amazing is, the film simply does not fade. It's irreplaceable."

Message boards hummed. An online petition materialized. Then, at the Cannes Film Festival, a Kodak executive, Robert Mayson, agreed to a meeting with Pip Chodorov, a principal member of Paris's thriving Super 8 filmmaking scene - the city is home to several Super 8 film festivals - and the administrator of frameworks.com, one of a number of online message boards dedicated to experimental film.

Mr. Chodorov, who also owns a video distribution company specializing in experimental and independent film, said the company blinked, at least a little.

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By his account, Mr. Mayson agreed that Kodak might produce more Super 8 Kodachrome,
if the format's enthusiasts can find a way to process it.
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At present, the film is largely processed on a money-losing basis at the Kodak laboratory in Switzerland - where Super 8 Kodachrome processing is scheduled to cease in December 2007. Mr. Chodorov, in an telephone interview from Paris on Friday, said he now plans to petition the French government for a grant to help with processing.

He said he thought Mr. Mayson was "getting a lot of hate mail right now," adding, "I see it as my job to help find a solution, not send hate mail." Kodachrome Super 8 became a favorite thanks to the film's complex emulsion, the gelatinous solution that helps capture an image. It requires an elaborate developing process but produces striking, unique colors and unparalleled archival virtues, making it a favorite with Super 8 artists.

Kodachrome was the film of choice for avant-garde filmmakers like Kenneth Anger and Jonas Mekas, who were renowned in the film world though largely unknown outside it. A much larger population has most likely seen the film's fine-grain quality and lurid pigments in the form of old home movies. Indeed, the most famous image caught on Kodachrome film was the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, caught by Abraham Zapruder, a Dallas dressmaker who happened to be wielding an 8-millimeter camera that day.

In the last 20 years, video has all but eclipsed Super 8's practical use for amateur filmmakers and doting parents, who can now record images on a high-definition digital video camera, feed the footage directly onto a computer, edit it and e-mail it to a prospective producer or the grandparents in Michigan.

Super 8 cameras and projectors are now the stuff of specialty shops, eBay and flea markets, and Kodak alone continues to produce Super 8 film.

The company continues to produce Kodachrome in 16 millimeter and 35 millimeter formats, but it is discontinuing the Super 8 version largely because a steadily declining market has made processing unprofitable.

While the market may be small and shrinking, its constituents are passionate about their art. Small theaters in cities around the country, including Anthology Film Archives Millennium Film Workshop in New York, still regularly play Super 8 films. And when a theater isn't available, a white wall and a projector will suffice.

"I just showed one of my films at a small gallery out in Williamsburg," said Stephanie Gray, a 33-year-old filmmaker from Queens. "It was actually the backroom of someone's apartment." Ms. Gray, who bought her Super 8 camera for $25 at a flea market, said the medium lends itself to a poetic, personal kind of filmmaking that cannot be achieved with digital filmmaking. Judy Doherty, director of communications at Kodak's entertainment imaging division, argued that such poetry is well within reach of contemporary technology. If people are partial to shooting Super 8, she said, they can simply transfer the film onto digital and "achieve any kind of effect they want."

But enthusiasts contend that it simply isn't the same.

"When people started using synthesizers, we didn't throw out our pianos," Ms. Gray said.
 
EDM17 said:
yeah it may be fuji. I know its bigger gauge film that is sliced in half though. I thought 35mm, but maybe 16mm.


I'm pretty sure that Pro8 uses 35mm to make it's Super8 negative stocks. "Back in the day" 35mm print stock was used to make all those prepackaged movies you could buy and show at home. They'd print four stripes of movies onto one 35mm print stock,process it and then split it. I'm pretty sure I read that Phil Vigant at Super8 Sound had modifid this kind of equipment to make his Pro8s. I saw one of those splitting machines at a lab in Detroit once. Kinda scarry...
 
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