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Yep, new to the film world.
Im working on my second "short" and had a copy right question.
I am going to use some current popular music in it with out any permission.
Now this film is really just for fun/practice only for friends and family. Shouldn't
be a problem right? (i know silly question).
thanks :hmm:
 
'sup, good Jes :cool:

The only silly questions are the ones left unasked.

Technically, what you plan on doing is wrong.

Having said that, the odds of getting into trouble over it are extremely low. Typically, if you're just doing this to learn how to edit and only a few close people are going to see it, there's just no way the appropriate licensing authorities are ever going to catch wind of it.

It could be a problem, though, if you suddenly had a gem of a film on your hands and you (or a friend) uploads it to Usenet, where it becomes a 'net hit movie being downloaded tens of thousands of times.

I think most people have practised editing on whatever material they have on hand, at the time. Sound, video, whatever. Fake Budweiser commercials to build reels, etc. I've made a dozen or so short music videos using video footage from my favourite films and music from some fave bands. It's not stuff that I can flaunt about, but I sure learned a heck of a lot about editing doing it. ;)

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There is a better solution, though.

There are a lot of composers out there, looking to try their hand at scoring a film/short. Doing it for free, too, just to be able to have something to add to their reel. Maybe try finding one? It's good for you, it's good for them... and if the short film you make turns out to be a real winner, you'll be able to actually submit it to an event or two without fear of copyright infringement.

There are more composers in the Classifieds section of this board, than you can shake a stick at.

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Dang! That was a long reply.

Short version. In the context you described...

Yes, illegal... but noone will care unless you launch it all over the 'net.

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So that means you can't even show the movie for free if it uses commercial music?

Yikes. We're planning on posting some earlier shorts that use commercial tunes, but we arn't trying to make money off them- just be able to show people for free/fun.

Can there be legal reprocussions if someone catches wind? Macbeth 3000 has an original score, but it's predecessors (King Lear 2000, Hamlet) use tunes.
 
So that means you can't even show the movie for free if it uses commercial music?

That is correct... technically.

Can there be legal reprocussions if someone catches wind?

Absolutely.

The odds of it happening, though? Hard to say.

If Shakespeare 5000 (generic example) ended up on IFilm.com and became popular... so screwed. Sure, it's a free download from IFilm for whomever wants to watch it, but that site makes its money from advertising... and a popular film would be generating lots of revenue. Not for you necessarily.

If you were to plop it up on your own site, for a giggle... there's always the chance some dingle will download it and upload elsewhere. You've just lost control of your film's limited distribution.

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In the greater scheme of things, the odds are in your favour. Fun? Free? Not competing in fests? Not generating revenue? Most likely no worry.

Still, technically...

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Zensteve is right.

JES: It’s fine to use music if ONLY for practice - I have two dozen super8 movies with (then) popular songs and soundtrack cuts from other movies. Moroicone was my favorite composer to use on my films. But no matter how good the movie is you will never be able to show it in public - even for free.

Sure, people do it all the time. iFilm, TriggerStreet, Atom Films are full of them. Doesn’t make it right. And it really hurts your chances of doing anything else with your great movie.
 
Thank you all for the info...
I guess if I actually produce something good enough to be shown to the public, I could
re-edit in different music. THAT, will be a few steps down the line. :pop:
 
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