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My New Kung Fu: Ideas anybody?? Please tell me what you think

Okay, okay, when you think you kung fu movies, some of you are like... Why waste your time, or that's stupid. Well, my idea is great!

Please dont steal the idea

I will tell you my ideas and tell me what you think. Even give ideas, one mind is never better than mutltiple minds. Keep in mind, this script will talk about very poltical and controversial things from each country.
I have studie A LOT for this script in Chinese culture and history along with New yorks. I have watched fifteen Martial arts movies in preperation and have many more to go.

The Scenes alternate back and forth, but I just wrote them like this to make it easier to understand.

Main Characters: Aaron (New york)
Lei; Meaning Thunder (Chinese Village, Buddhists)

The Movie is split into three Acts: Takes place in present day.
Act I: Black and White:
Follows both and Aaron and Lei at a young age (Going back and forth as they age). Aaron lives in a orphanage, being a very disobedient child. Eventually he Runs away. He meets a group of kids who all depend on eachother, and whom on the streets stealing to live. At a young age, he learns to depend on himself, and free his mind from comformity. We watch as he grows in his teens, and becomes one of the leaders of the group of kids, now watching for younger newer kids. The group is eventually broken up after the police captures them and puts them in orphanges. Aaron, though, escapes. From here, he decides to get a job and starts to train in MMA to learn to fight. He learns to be obedient and respectful, but the mma place eventually closes down after the owner, the trainer, dies.

Lei, lives in a very religous village (Even though they dont use the word religion in China). At a young age he is taught the very strict ways of live in the village. Unlike other villages in the Country, they are blessed with a very beautiful land and a temple that was built decades before then. We follow Lei as he learns his jobs and place in his village. His village is his, is his family. He goes to school and learns. Eventually, people from a nearby village get jealous and begin to beat and steal from Leis village, though the village is pacifist so they do nothing. For years this happens. Then, A new man moves into the village by himself. He is a strange man, and seems to be a lone wolf. Eventually, Lei, now in his teens, finds out he is a martial artist, and one of the best in the world. He moved to the village to get away. The Man teaches Lei four different Fighting styles (I am renting a documentarie on the types of fighting styles and will choose which ones then) For a year and a half. While this happens, Lei falls in love, but the family moves away after the a famine rushes the area, and the nearby villagers take the rest. The school closes. Lei, very angry, fights the thieves the next time they come and defeats them. His parents make the man leave for teaching their son to fight, for they are pacifists. The man is never seen again. After this, We watch as the village falls apart piece by piece. First, his father dies, then his mother gets sick. Now that the thieves are gone, the village scrapes bye. His sister takes care of his mother, when he decides to leave the village to Beijing to collect money to revive his village.

At the end of the act, each character is 20.

ACT II: Black and White, with some color.

Aaron is now fired, and begins to work for a local thug-loan shark and gets a job retrieving money from those who dont pay. He is put in very dangerous situations. Still practicing in MMA everyday, as well as training in several other fighting techniques. He is a man of few words, and seems to be a tough guy, but is actally a very sweet man. He becomes friends with terminally ill kids from a small time hospital for people stricken with poverty. He brings them things, and talks with them, one of them reminds him of himself. Months goe bye and Aaron is well known by people around the area, especially one detective who hates his guts. Aaron, not making enough money to pay rent, begins to fight in underground streetfighting. Becoming the champ. More moths goe bye, and his fighting is par to none. Everyone is afraid to fight him ,so a gang tries to take his life but he lives, with minor injuries. After getting out of the hospital, he realizes the kid who reminded him on himself had died while he was in the hospital. Because of this, he quits the underground fighting. Then, His boss, the loan-shark. Asks him to kill an Asian woman who borrowed a large sum of money and never paid him back. His boss said he will give him 20 Thou if he does it. As Aaron goes to kill the woman, he realizes she has a child and that she needed the money to pay for a hospital bill. They end up falling in love. The loan-shark, now very upset, goes after Aaron. Aaron kills him along with a few of his pals, with help from the detective! From here, he finds out that the hospitla will close unless they come up with money. He is put under a lot of stress.

Lei makes it Beijing and finds a job as a janitor. He works his ass off to make nothing. Lei deicdes to join a tournament that if he wins, he will recieve some dough. But because He is not apart of a clan or group he cannot compete. He goes to a Clan where fighters learn and train. They refuse to train him, saying he is not worthy. He offers to fight the best guy on the team, they except, and he wins. The trainer, a very old men, sees his potential, and notices a move he learned from the Man in his village. A trade mark move only the man knew. The Trainer knows this man, and confronts him. Lei quits his job and moves into the Clan building and is personaly trained by the trainer. He meets an American woman and has a child. A boy. Lei competes in small tournaments to build his rep and earns money to send home, yet his mother is getting sicker and sicker everyday. Him and his wife visit his village, which is worse then ever. Once, a crowded beautiful place, is now an empty memory. Only a few dozen people living there. The ones to poor to move.
Once returning Lei decides that he must find a way to save his mom and the village. His mother is upset he married an American Woman aswell. His wife gets pregnant again ,this time a girl. But because of the one child law, she refuses to give it up and suggests they move to America. He denies and says he will find a way.

Both, Aaron and Lei hear a tournament that takes place every Ten years. The winner earning 2 million dollars. Only 50 fighters can compete. And only citizens from specific countries are allowed to compete. It takes place in China. And American is one those allowed countries. Their is a tournament they must win in order to make into the Major Tourney, but in order for them to be allowed into the Minor Tourney, the must pass a series of tests and the top fourteen scorers are allowed. Both Fighters pass the tests in their country and win the 3 fight Minor Tourney and they both win.

Both Characters are now: 23

ACT III: All Color

Here, Aaron gets a Chinese man, sent from the Tournament leaders, to help him while traveling to China. The man is very funny. Aaron make it to China, his girlfriend staying behind, and stays in a very nice hotel.
Lei also is in a nice hotel, But because he is from China, he doesn't need a guide.

They both compete in the tournament on fight after another. More conflicts happen during this, that I have not yet to come up with. But they fight their hearts out until the time comes... Where they must fight eachother, the first time every meeting. The Crowd will be split between who they will want to win, since both characters are written to be very likeable, and both having tragic history, and strong reasons to fight. But they fight. The idea: There are no Heros, there are no villains. Only Us.

The reason I do the Black and white in the begginning and Color towards the end is to show how the older you get, the more the past feels like a dream.

Tell me what you think, give some ideas.
 
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Patented you say?

Perhaps you meant copyrighted? In which case it is not the idea but the actual story itself?

I don't mean to be rude but all your post are on various ideas and script tidbits, incomplete they are extremely difficult to protect in a legal sense, perhaps you should discuss with a lawyer the ramifications of your posting on your concepts/ideas/stories rather than slapping incorrect terminology on your posts thinking they would protect your ideas to being stolen by others.

Just a friendly suggestion.
 
Of couse it's been done before. But the fact that both our heros face off is the Twist that's never been done. The Torunament isn't the idea of the film, its just a way to match together to fighters who are fighting for a reason and upon this, must fight eachother. As well as show how two different cultures are, but how similar people are. I think its genious. But thanks for the feedback.

By the way, Love stories and Zombie films have been told before, but that doesnt mean a good one cant come out.
 
The plot has certainly been used before, yet that's not to say it won't work, so okay, i agree with you.

But then if that's correct, how could you possibly take legal action against somebody using a theme and familiar tale of a genre that has been done so many times before...one that isn't scripted in any way?

I'll again agree with you that your idea is fine, maybe that's because I'm a big kung-fu lover, but unless you're protecting this thing with an invisible tribe of Vikings, you haven't got a chance in hell of stopping anybody if they wanted to take it, or legal action against them even if they do.

If it was me, and i thought i had something genius, true genius...I wouldn't have posted.

It's nice to see you're doing your homework. But, if it was me, I'd step away from the script- when it is you write it- for a few months. Don't go writing off the back of the movies, if I'm going to watch it i want to see something more, not left dissecting obvious memorabilia from previous Kung-fu gold - Although this will be the fault of your unconscious from a vast stint of movie watchin', yet here's somebody counteracting what you didn't know so it's up to you whether you listen or not.

There's a lot more to martial arts than just martial arts bro.

It'd be nice if you could get this up and running, you've got an audience if you want it bad enough.

PS. I wouldn't go throwing words like 'Genius' around this place, these cats will eat you up!:cool: haha
 
ACT I
I like the idea that they both come from very different lifestyles, however I think it would be best shown by following Lei's growing up with flashes to Aaron's showing him learning similar skills but in a much different environment and method.

ACT II
I'd say focus more on Aaron in this act as Lei's story is a bit soft. Also 3 years is a weird stretch of time considering what each accomplishes in that period, personally I don't think their stories match, time-wise.

ACT III
No funny man, sound silly but Aaron just spent the last 3 years being a thug, your not going to send someone who is going to get on his nerves. That would be disrespectful and not being a proper host.

"But they fight. The idea: There are no Heros, there are no villains. Only Us. " interesting concept but the whole story idea screams "we need money, money solves everything" from the get go. There is no rising action or clear end-game unless one of them wins... and here is the conflict which you are creating... both need the money but only one can win.
 
Seems like a Kung Fu Dickens tale.

I don’t know the depth of the funny man, but I might not bring in another character in the 3rd act.

It’s hard to know how it would play out, but it’s possible the double protagonist could cancel itself out.

I might personally look more towards demonstrating something like:
“We can all be heros and we can all be villains, but in battle we might also be neither and both.”

-Thanks-
 
Very interesting. I am currently looking for a way to make the script shorter. 150 pages or less.

And, I know I dont have any legal protection over my stuff, but I thought I'd say I did just for the hell of it.

And, life is perception, anything is real in our minds. I feel, the idea is genius. And I have genius Ideas, not saying you don't. And that's my perception. I don't let others perception effect me unless I let it, such is as influence.

And, the script isn't mainly about fighting. It's not really even a kung fu movie. It's a cultural tale, following two people in two different worlds. How it is to grow up and how hard it is to live in certain ways. I am trying to make good plot points and twists to make a climatic ending. But this more Forrest Gump in the way that it's a series of events. And, my idea was to make each Act have its own middle begginning and End. And, you get to grow with the characters, feel their sorrow, feel their love. The fighting is an ingredient that is to important, but I don't want people to think this is a Bruce Lee film or something.

And Aaron wasn't a gangster, that was never the point. He's a good person, he just got sucked into the wrong crowd. But he knew it was the wrong crowd and just needed money. He doesn't associate with these people, he isn't even a thug. The fact he kills the thugs and tries to save the hospital goes to show he is more on the inside, even though he speaks little. His face says it all.

Lei's second story is a little weak. I'm trying to find ideas that don't copy ideas from the same movie lol. But, my idea was to go back and forth as they age. Age7, Age7, Age13, Age 13.

And, I am of course going to stretch the idea out and figure out things that dont make sense. But this of course is an idea, and thats it. Just an idea. But, I am going to write, but not for at least 4 months. I have more research to do and must finish my current script. But, this idea I love. Maybe it's me. But I love it.

I feel many scripts have been written and put into production that everyone thought was stupid. But each climax in the first two Acts, all lead to one point. This my idea of fate. Two peoople will meet, not because of god, but because the formula of the universe. These two will meet, after both going through incredible back stories and fight, for what they love.

Imagine that last fight scene. And, Aaron does need a guide in my taste. And Act 3 is an act of its own remember. If he needs a Guide in order to win 2 million dollars, I think he will manage. The guy just shows him how to act, like not to shake hands in China. But to bow. And many other cultural aspects I am researching. I feel each character in each act must be shown equally.

Tell me what you think
 
Very interesting. I am currently looking for a way to make the script shorter. 150 pages or less.

And, life is perception, anything is real in our minds. I feel, the idea is genius. And I have genius Ideas, not saying you don't. And that's my perception. I don't let others perception effect me unless I let it, such is as influence.

All you have is the perception of 'Truth', 'Influence' is a fringe emotion that has nothing to do with 'Truth' nor how it is you happen perceive it. I can't agree, a matter that is aired, spoken, a thought that is pondered, this exists, but to say that it is real, that possibility has somehow evolved into solid matter, well it's not far from delusion.

'Fate' happens to partner a belief that i am simply not apart of.

I'm not trying to burst your bubble on any accounts man, I'm not expecting a philosophical-spaghetti-western-stand-off, but it's my two cent, and maybe it's worth just that.

Also, if you're not wanting people to misinterpret your film as 'A Bruce Lee movie or something', ask a MOD to edit the thread title, the term Kung-Fu can be a little misleading that way.
 
I think your fight scene in the third act is what your going to use to sell your movie to the audience (not sure about producers) and they are not going to want to sit through the sixty minutes prior to that fight.

Don't get me wrong, its a nice story but its not a kung-fu story unless there is a fight every 10 minutes (or 20 minutes)... You've watch a lot of kung-fu, how many fights are there? Every second or third scene of the movie has some minor fist fight going on.

Having such a well crafted A/B story here is excellent, but you need to introduce conflict besides they are both poor. Act I is easily done (see my comments above), Act II only Aaron seems to have any potential combative points as Lei is mainly training; boring... unless its to show Lei is a rising star fight after fight - almost like a montage between the Aaron story (classic B story concept).
 
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The idea of Lei is he came from a blessed village. Rich, solid family, live stock. But he watches as one by one it fades, I think everyone can relate to that.

Aaron's story is, he started with nothing, making everything he gets, a treasure. He never had anything, meaning, he has nothing to lose. Until he finds meaning.

And, the first scene of the movie is a fight scene. It shows the Fighting tournament championship match, before they are born. The figher who wins, two sons who fight in the tournamnet during the Script.
 
The idea of Lei is he came from a blessed village. Rich, solid family, live stock. But he watches as one by one it fades, I think everyone can relate to that.

Aaron's story is, he started with nothing, making everything he gets, a treasure. He never had anything, meaning, he has nothing to lose. Until he finds meaning.

And, the first scene of the movie is a fight scene. It shows the Fighting tournament championship match, before they are born. The figher who wins, two sons who fight in the tournamnet during the Script
 
YOU STOLE MY IDEA !!!

I showed you my action clip (Dr Cookie VS. Kicks, and script ) and the next thing you post is a kung-fu movie script! STOP THIEF..

Just kidding.. take any of my ideas, there is truly NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN
 
Not quite what I meant... here watch this..

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