social-media Fkkking YouTube - an anti AI rant!

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CelticRambler

"AI"-enhanced dubbing of YouTube videos has arrived with a vengence on this side of the Atlantic. :mad:

For years, we've had to tolerate the TuberFürhrer forcing us to see auto-translated titles of videos, despite at least a decades worth of requests on the Google/YT support forums asking for it to be permanently turn-offable.

But now they've decided that everyone should be subjected to an AI-generated, auto-translated soundtrack too, based on who-the-fkk knows what parameters. Even if they graciously allow you the option of switching back to the original while viewing on a proper computer, such a concession is denied if you use your GoogleAndroid phone for the same purpose.

We have 24 official languages in the EU, and a bunch of additional non-official but perfectly legitimate ones as well. If I want to watch a German video in German, why the FKKKK should some idiot in Silicon Valley decide it should be translated into bad Italian?

And is this the same idiot so disconnected from reality that think it's appropriate for a hard-core wrench-wielding, monster-truck driving, big-bearded Mid-Western red-neck to have his rousing "Howdy Y'all!" be dubbed with an insipid "bonjour" spoken by a female voice. :huh:

This is why computers will never take over the world.

The Google TuberFührers chose to do this at the same time as they limited Google search to a pathetic ten results per page, so I was already in a bad mood before my favourite Americans all got Frenchified. 👿
 
The situation right now is like there was a huge craze surrounding jackhammers. Like somehow people got extremely excited about jackhammers and they passed out 55 jackhammers to every man woman and child in America. Nobody actually knows how to use one or has any actual legitimate use for it, But no person in the world can seem to make it through one day without posting 25 Instagram photos of them self holding a jackhammer or jackhammering something. Every business, whether they need one or not, is hiring 50 people to run their jackhammer division. Pottery shops, bakeries, tennis courts, and car dealerships all need their own fleet of jackhammer specialists and if they don't have a use for a jackhammer they're going to find one. Every kid on your street goes out and runs their jackhammer in the yard between 10pm and 4:00 AM every night and you can't sleep. You break into a run down the street desperate to get back inside your house and away from the horrifying noise that comes from every direction, the door slams behind you you breathe a sigh of relief before looking up to see your wife walking slowly towards you with glassy eyes holding a brand new jackhammer with a giant red ribbon tied around it. " One of us, one of us, one of us" She chants as she walks slowly but steadily towards you as the jackhammer chews through the floor of your living room.

That's basically what's going on with ai right now. I understand that mc hammer's back up dancers needed parachute pants, You know, For freedom of movement while they do the hammer dance. But do you remember what actually happened back in those horrifying days? Every person in America bought 16 pairs of parachute pants, You got a free pair of parachute pants with every visit to the local car wash , There is a folded up pair at the bottom of each happy meal , And I expect to this day there's a mountain the size of Everest of them at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean where the landfills became too full of parachute pants and had to secretly dump them in the middle of the night.

As far as your automatic translation problem, It will go away in time, these people are just incompetent morons. The level of ai we have available right now could easily get this task exactly right, But like everything else in the world, as soon as you get a corporate manager with an 85 iq involved, Everything breaks down.

If you're being honest with yourself I think you already know automation is the right choice for Providing optional subtitles and audio tracks for each of the 1 million plus new videos uploaded to the Internet every single day. Would you even want that to be a job that people had to do? The endless drudgery of it would drive 10s of thousands insane. The solution is super obvious to anyone with half a brain. step one makes a default off and let people turn it on if they want to, Step two wait until it's actually ready to use to deploy it.

If you want to fix a lot of these problems you're really looking at it the wrong way. Quit shoving the biggest idiot you can possibly find to the top of the food chain and having them make all the significant decisions. Quit hiring the dumbest reality tv star you can find to pass down orders to nasa and the Air Force. Quit giving that popular jock from high school that never learned to read control over a multi million dollar company because he's Broski's with the right people. This really isn't ai's fault, this is society's fault. I cannot overstate how shocked I was when I came face to face with the reality of big money corporate America. Almost every leader was dumber than almost every employee, If you look at the faces in a real life board room it's like walking into a fraternity where they smash beer cans on their head. Then way down on the factory floor where no one gets to make any decisions are all these people that can speak six languages and code fortran.

Ai is the next generation of pocket calculator, It's for doing math. It looks like magic to people because they can't comprehend that level of math, And to be fair I couldn't either until I spent six months studying it, and it wasn't particularly easy to understand. People are vastly overusing ai right now because it's trending and less than one in 10,000 of them have any clue what they're doing.

I think it will burn out like any other fad or craze, at least in terms of the annoying overuse in areas where it really doesn't belong or isn't ready to use yet. In many other areas it's here to stay in a big way.

While I don't think the use of ai subtitling or voice over is going to go away, I am absolutely positive that they will pick out the dumbest friend from high school that they can find and pay them $300,000 a year for about 10 years until its competent. That person won't actually improve the ai, but they will hire people nobody likes for $11 an hour and beat them like a rented mule until the AI is better and then take credit for it. We call this the Steve Jobs method out in Silicon Valley. Bottom line, your problem will solve itself in a while.
 
sfoster said:
can you post a video example
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Well, if you want (if you really, really want ... )

Of three new videos from channels I'm subscribed to (and acknowledging the liberal use of poetic licence in my "redneck" portrait) this was the wackiest, at least until I restored it to the original American English. I'm assuming you'll have the option of choosing the French language track :

For amusement, I switched it to German and then Italian. Both female voices too. To start with, then suddenly change to a male voice for no apparent reason. It flips randomly from male to female throughout the video - but it seems to have only one male voice and one female voice, regardless of however many characters are in the video. :rolleyes:

Intelligence my 🍑
 
CelticRambler said:
Well, if you want (if you really, really want ... )

Of three new videos from channels I'm subscribed to (and acknowledging the liberal use of poetic licence in my "redneck" portrait) this was the wackiest, at least until I restored it to the original American English. I'm assuming you'll have the option of choosing the French language track :

For amusement, I switched it to German and then Italian. Both female voices too. To start with, then suddenly change to a male voice for no apparent reason. It flips randomly from male to female throughout the video - but it seems to have only one male voice and one female voice, regardless of however many characters are in the video. :rolleyes:

Intelligence my 🍑
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Yeah the woman saying hello in french was funny. Got a laugh out of me even knowing it was coming.
Funny thing is they have the tech to actually clone peoples voice, so they could do the translation in the literal dudes voice - the technology exists.

There's a lot of concerns about deepfake technology, the ways it could be exploited, laws that could be passed in the future, so most companies choose not to invest in it.
 
Okay, this is worse than I thought! Seems like YouTube has only one male and one female voice (what about the gender-neutrals ???) per language, no matter what accent or intonation the speaker(s) in the videos use. So the bearded Matt is represented by the same womanoid who also speaks for the fast-speaking "Essex girl" interviewed (and voiced by) American Bernadette, and also the soft-spoken Norwegian-accented Freida.

Going by the number of complaints about this over the last year, it must have been beta-tested with a certain number of channels, but it looks like it was officially launched only last week. With much self-congratulation by the TuberFührers, naturally. And, it seems, turned on by default for the content creators chosen to roll out the scheme. (YT blog post here)

I know that hate-comments are always more prolific than compliments, so maybe there are millions of viewers that love it ... but surely one of the primary attractions of any personality-driven channel is, well, the voice of the person speaking to camera. How the fkkkk can anyone in YT think that it's an enhancement to replace the spark and intonation of a real person with a flat, emotionless monotone? It'll be interesting to see if any (or how many) of my subscribees disable the feature in the coming weeks/months.
 
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