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Crowd Funding

I was actually talking about experience and credibility to ask for someones money

I will tell you this much my friend. If everybody waited until they had experience and credibility before asking for a hand with something, many things would never get done. I think that if you are passionate about something, it is then ok to ask for money to help you learn more about it.

When I started getting my team together, I had neither experience or credibility, and yet that has not stopped people giving me something far more valuable then their money...they have pledged their time, and skills, and help. Some of these people, have far more experience then I, and they know how slim the odds are of us producing something epic, but they love that we are going to give it a try anyway. Its the Kiwi way. We look at the issues, we do our homework quietly on our own for a long amount of time, and then we get stuck in. And when we do that, the rest of the world normally stands back yelling "you idiot it can't be done" and then about half way through they go into silence as they realize the Kiwi is on track, and by the end, when the Kiwi achieves, they are all ready to shake the hand of their new hero and tell him/her that they were rooting for them the whole time. Now I have laid out my film story, I have laid out the homework I have done, I have laid out how I intend to do things. I have discussed my end goal...My question now is to you...

What if I make it? Do you want to be one of those people that changed their tune halfway through the race, or do you want to be the one that actually did believe in me from the beginning. Worst case scenario, I fail, you got to tut and tell yourself that I was an idiot and that you were right. But if I make it...If my first film is good, THATS a story you get to tell forever, that the NZ Director who made this film, that turned out to have quite a cult following, asked you directly for funding, and you embraced the spirit of adventure, and said yes to that guy, because you too are an adventurer. Thats the story you tell your kids at night to show them that believing in something is not wrong. You can tell them whatever you like, and it costs you just under $5 US to be able to tell that story. You saw someone trying to do the impossible, even you thought it couldn't be done, but you loved the idea that maybe it could, and that this guy was ballsy enough to try, and you sent that nobody from NZ around $5 US and that NZer took your money along with the pledges of the rest and he did it. He made a great movie, and you were a part of that. Without you and your $5, that movie may not have made it.

Do you want to tell that story?

Theres only one way for you to be able to tell that story. It starts with a pledge. The links above. Lets get you onboard.
 
Theres only one way for you to be able to tell that story. It starts with a pledge. The links above. Lets get you onboard.

Except that that's the story everybody's pitching these days. The question isn't "do I want to tell that story", it's "what makes this guy different from everyone else asking for money for their projects?". I'm not saying you won't succeed, I'm saying you haven't shown us anything yet that makes your story any more likely than anyone else. I can't chip in to all the projects - even $5 each starts adding up pretty quickly. And personally I'd rather throw down $100 one one project that I think will come out great than $5 to 20 random projects that I can't gauge either way because there's nothing to judge their viability on.

I'd love to tell that story. So my challenge to you is: show me something that indicates you have a likelihood of pulling of a great project and I'll send you $100.
 
Except that that's the story everybody's pitching these days. The question isn't "do I want to tell that story", it's "what makes this guy different from everyone else asking for money for their projects?". I'm not saying you won't succeed, I'm saying you haven't shown us anything yet that makes your story any more likely than anyone else. I can't chip in to all the projects - even $5 each starts adding up pretty quickly. And personally I'd rather throw down $100 one one project that I think will come out great than $5 to 20 random projects that I can't gauge either way because there's nothing to judge their viability on.

I'd love to tell that story. So my challenge to you is: show me something that indicates you have a likelihood of pulling of a great project and I'll send you $100.

You have a deal. I will let you know as soon as I put footage up :)
 
Film Festivals
Many here seem to have it ingrained in their heads that the idea is that when you do make your first feature length, it should be sent straight to a film festival.
Why? Because it was the way.

1 word: Buzz

Further, with almost everyone going the film festival route, I can know one thing for certain...that path is going to be very crowded. The Film Festival route for me then is clearly not the best way to move forward. I would prefer to try other avenues that play to the strengths I do have.

I applaud you in your chosen route. One things to pay attention to: If you think Film Festivals are crowded, wait until you try to sell your movie on VOD or DVD. You'll then understand what crowded means. Festivals teach you a fair few filmmaking lessons.

I think that if you are passionate about something, it is then ok to ask for money to help you learn more about it.

Nothing wrong with it at all. The real question then becomes. What are you going to do to ensure your success? Completing a successful crowd funding campaign is easier than making a successful, profitable feature film.

Quentin Tarantino, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Orson Welles, Ridley Scott

They had successful teams and most, if not all, had a studio (and the studios experience and distribution) behind them. Another point of note. Those were different times. People were willing to go see films without the filmmakers needing to spend an average of $25mil on marketing. Those times have changed. I'm not saying your point is wrong, it's just invalid for the current marketing age of filmmaking.

Once again, good luck.
 
Funny clip yes, but one might think you were taking the piss out of me there. Not really a line I see crossed to often on this site, but look at you go at it with such enthusiasm. Well done you.
 
Funny clip yes, but one might think you were taking the piss out of me there. Not really a line I see crossed to often on this site, but look at you go at it with such enthusiasm. Well done you.

:lol:

I wasn't trying to be antagonistic there, but hey this is the internet man lets get real. There is no shortage of people with delusions of grandeur. No shortage of people talking themselves up with nothing to show for it. One of the biggest douchebags I've ever met in my 30 years posts on Facebook about what a great person he is and how he'll give the shirt off his back to anyone that needs it. And this guy is one of the worst people I know.

There is no limit to how deluded people can become, so honestly can you look at this big picture and really expect strangers on the internet to take you seriously just because you say so. but I did read you're going to post some footage so that will be great.

Also, for all I know, this is a picture of you
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That concerns me. Not that the film won't turn out well, but for your chances. I myself wouldn't back this project if I didn't know you because of the major lack of info on the project and those involved with it.

I'm sorry you are concerned chimp, sincerely, it troubles me that your brows furrow with concern...I will let you rest easy mate. Don't donate.
 
And that really goes for all...I am going to put out some footage soon enough...wait until then, and if you don't think this is for you, then please kindly pass my post by and continue with your day.
 
Hehe. I love the sarcasm.

Just trying to give you feedback so that you successfully meet your goal. I'll refrain from giving advice.

aah but it was sincere sarcasm lol

Anyway the point is made. I do appreciate the intended help but really if you don't want to donate then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind, which I'm ok with, but sitting here replying to all the people that clearly don't or won't donate is growing a little tiresome.
 
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