Not money or marketing
These scripts don't get picked up
No paying audience would pay for noreal story
These scripts don't get picked up
No paying audience would pay for noreal story
If story is so important, as every filmmaker keeps saying, why does Hollywood do remakes? If people were craving the story, why can't they just buy the DVDs of the old movies? If story is so important, why is every superhero movie about somebody wanting to destroy the universe, and some people trying to save it?
The average viewer wants a spectacle and they get it, good story or not. The spectacle is marketed and images are plastered everywhere and the movie makes a billion dollars. But nobody is going to remember one Avengers movie from the next.
Of course, if the story is different AND good, then it's going to last forever. For instance, "Predator" is not your typical alien movie. There aren't a bunch of aliens in flying saucers with bad intentions. It's just an Alien dude on safari, and he's hunting. Now that's a story. For no reason other than you've never heard of such a thing before. And of course it has everything else going for it too. The details are fantastic.
But at the indie level, how good can a story really be anyway. We don't have the budget for a spectacle. So all we can offer is a "feeling." No indie film story is going to make a billion, whatever the story, without marketing. So the only thing one can aim for is trying to make a certain segment of the market feel kinship with the story, and hope they get interested enough to want to watch your film. But that's just the premise. Then you have to write the story. You have to get a team together. You have to get your actors. You have to get some sort of budget together. You have to make sure you have your locations. You have to shoot. You have to edit. You have to make sure your sound is alright. You have to make sure you have a soundtrack. You have to complete everything,... and that is just the beginning. After the "beginning" is over, you now have to make sure it leaves your computer and goes on to the real world. And then without a marketing budget, since all the money has been spent on production, you have to figure out how to get more than 5 people interested in your film, not because your film is a spectacle, not because you have a great story (how great can your story really be? It's highly improbable that the average filmmaker is so creative that they've come up with an amazing story nobody has ever heard of), but because you made them feel something,... anything... at some level, deep enough for them to recommend your film to their friend.
If you can't do that, your film or mine, won't make it very far out of our respective computers,... whatever the story.
your a smart guy but really off on something here jeez.
If story isnt important why do indie films suck? how about that question
remakes are made to bank off an original story
you dont need money to make a story and predator is a good idea not much of a story but enough.
creative enough to write a story? wow then why make a movie. you dont deserve to make a fu cking movie if your not creative enough. Your implying a good story or idea is all money. sad.
No one can write or be creative anymore thats it. They used to be . Its sad that young guys like you convinced themselves there never were to justify the fact that you will never create
If story is so important, as every filmmaker keeps saying, why does Hollywood do remakes? If people were craving the story, why can't they just buy the DVDs of the old movies? If story is so important, why is every superhero movie about somebody wanting to destroy the universe, and some people trying to save it?
The average viewer wants a spectacle and they get it, good story or not. The spectacle is marketed and images are plastered everywhere and the movie makes a billion dollars. But nobody is going to remember one Avengers movie from the next.
Of course, if the story is different AND good, then it's going to last forever. For instance, "Predator" is not your typical alien movie. There aren't a bunch of aliens in flying saucers with bad intentions. It's just an Alien dude on safari, and he's hunting. Now that's a story. For no reason other than you've never heard of such a thing before. And of course it has everything else going for it too. The details are fantastic.
But at the indie level, how good can a story really be anyway.
We don't have the budget for a spectacle. So all we can offer is a "feeling." No indie film story is going to make a billion, whatever the story, without marketing. So the only thing one can aim for is trying to make a certain segment of the market feel kinship with the story, and hope they get interested enough to want to watch your film. But that's just the premise. Then you have to write the story. You have to get a team together. You have to get your actors. You have to get some sort of budget together. You have to make sure you have your locations. You have to shoot. You have to edit. You have to make sure your sound is alright. You have to make sure you have a soundtrack. You have to complete everything,... and that is just the beginning. After the "beginning" is over, you now have to make sure it leaves your computer and goes on to the real world. And then without a marketing budget, since all the money has been spent on production, you have to figure out how to get more than 5 people interested in your film, not because your film is a spectacle, not because you have a great story (how great can your story really be? It's highly improbable that the average filmmaker is so creative that they've come up with an amazing story nobody has ever heard of), but because you made them feel something,... anything... at some level, deep enough for them to recommend your film to their friend.
If you can't do that, your film or mine, won't make it very far out of our respective computers,... whatever the story.
Okay fine. Maybe I should just speak for myself then. What I'm really saying is that I am not creative enough to write a story great enough to be great without marketing, great visuals, sound design etc. Maybe the average filmmaker is.
If story isnt important why do indie films suck? how about that question
Story is the most important
If story is so important, as every filmmaker keeps saying, why does Hollywood do remakes? If people were craving the story, why can't they just buy the DVDs of the old movies? If story is so important, why is every superhero movie about somebody wanting to destroy the universe, and some people trying to save it?
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Okay fine. Maybe I should just speak for myself then. What I'm really saying is that I am not creative enough to write a story great enough to be great without marketing, great visuals, sound design etc. Maybe the average filmmaker is.
That's the hero's journey.
Film is far and away the most complex story telling medium ever. There's so much technically and artistically that can go wrong with each of the many individual film crafts, let alone in how all those film crafts combine to form the illusion of a single unified story telling medium. Why do (most) indie films suck? Because one or more of those film crafts and/or the way they were combined was executed poorly enough to disengage the audience from the story telling.
these days you need it all.
a great story, stylish visuals, impressive acting, great soundtrack
if you want to talk about audience? if that is how we are basing this then the most important thing is the cast.
If that's what you need no one has it. I see absolute shit compared to 15 years ago and longer. Indie or mainstream. Puke. What you stated would create what you don't see anymore. Pandomonium
I strongly disagree. There are plenty of great films being made, both at the indie and studio levels. You, apparently, just ain't watching them.
Name some so I can laugh at the lowered standards of modern society and that they've never actually watche d a great film