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Hi Patrick,
1. Yes, it is indeed a big decision. From what you've got, it seems that she is just descending into psychosis with her obsession. That should be all the motive you need. What has more power over you than your own mind? If you want something specific that she is after, well.. it could be something like a notebook she saw him writing in. Maybe when she saw him writing in it he was angry/sad/etc and she wants to know why. That leaves mystery for the audience too. What's in that journal? Here's something else for you to play with.. what if, she breaks into his place and slowly discovers that he's plotting a terrible crime. What can she do, just her and her camera? What if he comes home while she's there? What if...
2. This would depend on the p.o.v of the story. If we are watching the events unfold through her eyes (instead of as someone on the outside watching her) then you would want to involve us in the psychosis. Specific ideas are not really possible to come up with until you decide the genre and the point of view. Whatever you choose, it has to be something the audience can relate to. We can't relate to plain psychosis with no motivation. That motivation could well be obsession, but why is she obsessed? There's got to be something he has that she doesn't. Obviously, if she wants to be him.
3. It's ok I think. Disjointed, but that is perfectly normal at this point in the process. Ideas are only that. It depends where you take it from here that determines how good the idea is.
Hope I've been able to help in some way. If you are looking for a different type of feedback let me know and I'll do what I can.
Best of luck!
-Robert
1. Yes, it is indeed a big decision. From what you've got, it seems that she is just descending into psychosis with her obsession. That should be all the motive you need. What has more power over you than your own mind? If you want something specific that she is after, well.. it could be something like a notebook she saw him writing in. Maybe when she saw him writing in it he was angry/sad/etc and she wants to know why. That leaves mystery for the audience too. What's in that journal? Here's something else for you to play with.. what if, she breaks into his place and slowly discovers that he's plotting a terrible crime. What can she do, just her and her camera? What if he comes home while she's there? What if...
2. This would depend on the p.o.v of the story. If we are watching the events unfold through her eyes (instead of as someone on the outside watching her) then you would want to involve us in the psychosis. Specific ideas are not really possible to come up with until you decide the genre and the point of view. Whatever you choose, it has to be something the audience can relate to. We can't relate to plain psychosis with no motivation. That motivation could well be obsession, but why is she obsessed? There's got to be something he has that she doesn't. Obviously, if she wants to be him.
3. It's ok I think. Disjointed, but that is perfectly normal at this point in the process. Ideas are only that. It depends where you take it from here that determines how good the idea is.
Hope I've been able to help in some way. If you are looking for a different type of feedback let me know and I'll do what I can.
Best of luck!
-Robert
I might kick around something like she begins to notice this guy in a few of her photos, then she sees him and tries to approach, but he slips away, yet (Maybe) somehow she was clever enough to account for that and follows him -only to discover he in fact lives very near to where she does.
At some point she breaks into his place and finds picture of herself that he has been taking (It would be good if she can’t go to the police from some reason), then she begins returning to his place, and getting bolder and bolder and digging deeper into who she thinks he might be, and through it becoming oddly infatuated with him.
(Then I don’t know what happens), but eventually maybe she sees him with a woman and she flips out, then when she gets home he is waiting for her (I don’t know), but in the end we learn that he was paid (like by her wealthy family) to watch her because she has issues with identity and becoming delusional and infatuated with and stalking strangers she photographs.
It’s all rough and very thin, but basically she is the real nut job, and some of her issues (Like paranoia) have been exacerbated by her family trying to help, but help has instead gone awry and turned her into an accidental murderer (by killing the guy she thought was stalking her), or something.
-Thanks-
At some point she breaks into his place and finds picture of herself that he has been taking (It would be good if she can’t go to the police from some reason), then she begins returning to his place, and getting bolder and bolder and digging deeper into who she thinks he might be, and through it becoming oddly infatuated with him.
(Then I don’t know what happens), but eventually maybe she sees him with a woman and she flips out, then when she gets home he is waiting for her (I don’t know), but in the end we learn that he was paid (like by her wealthy family) to watch her because she has issues with identity and becoming delusional and infatuated with and stalking strangers she photographs.
It’s all rough and very thin, but basically she is the real nut job, and some of her issues (Like paranoia) have been exacerbated by her family trying to help, but help has instead gone awry and turned her into an accidental murderer (by killing the guy she thought was stalking her), or something.
-Thanks-
It's an intriguing idea that you are building.
1. If her transformation can be see before she goes to his apartment it is a
logical next step to go there.
2. She looks at his photos, learns his body language, pretends to have his
profession, imitates his hairstyle and wear his underwear. Uses his phone
and says that he is the one who is calling.
3. Idea is interesting so far, but it needs an ending to be good.
1. If her transformation can be see before she goes to his apartment it is a
logical next step to go there.
2. She looks at his photos, learns his body language, pretends to have his
profession, imitates his hairstyle and wear his underwear. Uses his phone
and says that he is the one who is calling.
3. Idea is interesting so far, but it needs an ending to be good.
A reason to break in? Its been circling around..
how about....
she starts watching him more and more.. then she sees him "steal something" or do some other VERY suspicious looking thing.. you set up some "intrigue"
she keeps watching and starts to see him as a covert agent or something like that..
of course she now HAS to break in, to get the PROOF that she needs, or to answer a question she MUST have answered.. or even better, to HELP him finish the mission.. she starts to "help" him in covert ways.. eventually becoming HIM and living in his home while he goes out of town..
You can reveal at the summation of this movie that it was all a "miss reading" of the events by the crazed woman...
how about....
she starts watching him more and more.. then she sees him "steal something" or do some other VERY suspicious looking thing.. you set up some "intrigue"
she keeps watching and starts to see him as a covert agent or something like that..
of course she now HAS to break in, to get the PROOF that she needs, or to answer a question she MUST have answered.. or even better, to HELP him finish the mission.. she starts to "help" him in covert ways.. eventually becoming HIM and living in his home while he goes out of town..
You can reveal at the summation of this movie that it was all a "miss reading" of the events by the crazed woman...
I think that she needs to miss something in her life in order to achieve that craving to become HIM. Better family, frendly (maybe she was abuse as a child).
Do u see ur female character being a quite, outcast, or friendly and outgoing? That will influence a lot of her reasoning to become that guy, and break into his place
Do u see ur female character being a quite, outcast, or friendly and outgoing? That will influence a lot of her reasoning to become that guy, and break into his place
Maybe show that she has some childhood issues (therapist appointment maybe.. or a voice mail from therapist...), and have her imagine that he used to be her boyfriend/husband..
Having read the previous posts it seems that this is where the plot points start to develop and there are questions that need to be answered.
1. She's seen him before. Where has she seen him?
2. She becomes obsessed. Why does she develop the obsession?
3. She breaks into his apartment. What did he do that compelled her to commit the break-in?
It seems to me that the genre will decide how to answer the questions. Is it a psychological mystery/thriller or is there a supernatural component?
Just a few disconnected ideas...
He resembles a man from her past - father, husband/lover; abuser/rapist?
She's already crazy a la "A Beautiful Mind" and his apartment turn out to be in an abandoned building; does he really exist?
She sticks with film in a digital world and he appears only on film & not in digital photos. Again, is he real or not?
Rather than bumping into her he constantly appears on the periphery of the photographs she's taken - and he's always looking at her.
1. She's seen him before. Where has she seen him?
2. She becomes obsessed. Why does she develop the obsession?
3. She breaks into his apartment. What did he do that compelled her to commit the break-in?
It seems to me that the genre will decide how to answer the questions. Is it a psychological mystery/thriller or is there a supernatural component?
Just a few disconnected ideas...
He resembles a man from her past - father, husband/lover; abuser/rapist?
She's already crazy a la "A Beautiful Mind" and his apartment turn out to be in an abandoned building; does he really exist?
She sticks with film in a digital world and he appears only on film & not in digital photos. Again, is he real or not?
Rather than bumping into her he constantly appears on the periphery of the photographs she's taken - and he's always looking at her.
or how about she accidentally find keys to his apt? ( under a welcome mat ) Once you have the means to enter, it's easier to give in to the temptation to actually enter his apt ( whereas breakin is rather a forceful act that requires more active will ) I think that's kinda like what happens in chungking express
Wanted to comment on alcoves idea..
Great idea here, in a novel I just finished one interesting side bit was about the "ugliest t shirt in the world" and how "the powers that be" in the UK had a gentlemanly agreement that all the video surveillance software used would automatically "remove" the wearer of this t-shirt AUTOMATICALLY when accessed. Thereby allowing many covert activities. ...
Great idea here, in a novel I just finished one interesting side bit was about the "ugliest t shirt in the world" and how "the powers that be" in the UK had a gentlemanly agreement that all the video surveillance software used would automatically "remove" the wearer of this t-shirt AUTOMATICALLY when accessed. Thereby allowing many covert activities. ...
it's an awesome idea. but you always want to have drama high-key. Drama = conflict. and without conflict there is no drama, without drama there is no story and without story, there is no character