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What do you find hilarious?
Well you never posted a synopsis and I had to hunt down your logline. For those interested:
"Our world is threatened by a portal to another dimension inhabited of creatures beyond our wildest dreams, and only one woman, a hybrid of them and us, can stop it by choosing one."
"Our world is threatened by a portal to another dimension inhabited of creatures beyond our wildest dreams, and only one woman, a hybrid of them and us, can stop it by choosing one."
Well, I don't know your name Mr. IndieTalk Founder, but I appreciate you doing this for me and I Thank you. Not only for this but for putting up with me and my antics last night. I like IndieTalk and will try and use it's resources for getting things rolling in the coming months.
Oh dear, Tommy L. Oh dear. Look, I don't want to be mean or cruel, but I've seen people doing exactly what you're doing, saying exactly what you're saying, and evincing exactly the same attitude as you're evincing, for 34 years now. People like this do not succeed, and invariably blame the stupid audience and the "haters" who are "jealous". Your project has not advanced for a decade -- and the reason for that is you. You are doing things that will not help your project, and not doing the things that will help it.
For starters, have you ever made a movie? Have you ever even worked on a movie, in any capacity? I can find no evidence of that -- and it should be easy to find. There is nobody by your name on IMDb; your production company is not listed anywhere that you haven't posted it. You appear to be a one-person conglomerate: corporations and divisions for everything. No doubt that makes you feel like a big-shot. But owning a production company does not make you a movie-maker; making movies makes you a movie-maker. It is, alas, a very common newbie mistake to spend time and resources on things that won't help your project -- such as designing your studio leader or writing your Oscar-acceptance speech ... or setting up a complex multi-corporation structure that increases overhead while doing nothing to advance the project. That's a garage band designing their album covers and dreaming of groupies before they've learned to play their instruments.
You have already been called out above for pretending you're a bigger deal than you are. Don't do that! If you have a high-quality script (the single most important -- and usually sole -- asset to the newbie, unfunded creator such as yourself) and a humble attitude (which you've already demonstrated is going to be quite a challenge for you), present yourself honestly: "I have a project, and I seek help in making it better and placing it before the world." Don't pretend to be something you're not; any collaborators you manage to dupe into working with you will feel betrayed when they learn the truth -- and they will warn everyone they know not to work with you. Is that really what you want?
As you admit that you have no skills at promotion, why do you get all pissy when people offer you advice? "I don't know what I'm doing, but don't you dare correct me!" Do you feel there is a route to success there? Here are two foundational marketing points that you seem never to have considered: 1) Every communication you place before the public is someone's first contact with your project; explain everything about your project in every post. 2) The more hoops you make your audience jump through, the smaller that audience will be; make it easy for the audience to follow your project. Your original post contains literally nothing except these two errors.
You say, "I still don't understand fully about Crowdfunding so I'm searching for a Campaign Manager". Yes, it is quite clear that you don't understand crowdfunding; that statement alone is proof of that. You failed at your self-run campaign, so your solution is to hire a campaign manager rather than, say, do some research and inform yourself? What do you expect a crowdfunding manager to do -- magically conjure an audience eager for your work? It seems the only thing you know about crowdfunding is, "Free money for me!" -- so the one thing you know is wrong. Just two free resources I recommend: Spend some time (a lot of time, given your current level of knowledge) reading the many helpful articles on the "Seed & Spark" website. When you have gained some idea what you're talking about, book a free consultation with Justin Giddings, "The Kickstarter Guy", to discuss your campaign. (Don't reverse the order of those two things, or you're wasting JG's time and your own.)
The best summation of crowdfunding is Ted Hope's famous dictum: "'Crowdfunding' is two words: 'crowd' and 'funding'. If you don't already have the crowd, you won't get the funding." The overwhelming majority of crowdfunding donations do not come from strangers; they come from your extended network: the people you know, and the people they know. Add up those people; multiply that total by the likely response rate; multiply that by the average donation; that's your budget. My back-of-the-envelope calculations, based on the publicly-available data, is that your budget is $5,000. And you want 35 times that amount?! That is simply not realistic.
And my god: "maybe you can put me in touch with a friend or colleagues on how to give it the attention and funding it needs." Do you really feel that this is a realistic ask? You want people to risk their reputations by giving away their most valuable and closely-guarded resources to an amateur they don't know who has no track record, for a project we have no reason to believe you can pull off let alone make a success -- and do this for free? This is the same attitude as those people who are sure Warner Discovery will give them carte blanche to finally "do Batman right", as soon as someone gives them James Gunn's cellphone number. Seriously: Give your head a shake, go to the bank, take out some money, and buy yourself a clue.
If you think I am harsh -- grow a thicker skin, or you will never succeed in this (or any) field. Better you hear this sort of thing here and now, rather than from the collaborators you've let down and the investors you've ripped off when your project collapses. This forum is a safe space; everyone here wants you to succeed. Things are much harsher in the real world. The audience is under no obligation to like your work, or to be nice if they don't. Investors want you to answer two questions: How are you going to pay me back plus profit? And when will the first cheque come in? If you don't have definite answers to those questions, the meeting is over and you won't get another one. A dream is not a plan.
Finally, despite what you may feel after reading this, I genuinely wish you success. I believe that independent creators are the salvation of the art and business of movie-making. You have been in a fallow period for a decade; the biggest reasons for that are your entitlement and ignorance. Good news! -- neither of those are fatal; both are curable. Get your ego out of your own way and stop trying to start at the top, and do some research on the field you want to enter, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the paths that open before you.
Break a leg!
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For starters, have you ever made a movie? Have you ever even worked on a movie, in any capacity? I can find no evidence of that -- and it should be easy to find. There is nobody by your name on IMDb; your production company is not listed anywhere that you haven't posted it. You appear to be a one-person conglomerate: corporations and divisions for everything. No doubt that makes you feel like a big-shot. But owning a production company does not make you a movie-maker; making movies makes you a movie-maker. It is, alas, a very common newbie mistake to spend time and resources on things that won't help your project -- such as designing your studio leader or writing your Oscar-acceptance speech ... or setting up a complex multi-corporation structure that increases overhead while doing nothing to advance the project. That's a garage band designing their album covers and dreaming of groupies before they've learned to play their instruments.
You have already been called out above for pretending you're a bigger deal than you are. Don't do that! If you have a high-quality script (the single most important -- and usually sole -- asset to the newbie, unfunded creator such as yourself) and a humble attitude (which you've already demonstrated is going to be quite a challenge for you), present yourself honestly: "I have a project, and I seek help in making it better and placing it before the world." Don't pretend to be something you're not; any collaborators you manage to dupe into working with you will feel betrayed when they learn the truth -- and they will warn everyone they know not to work with you. Is that really what you want?
As you admit that you have no skills at promotion, why do you get all pissy when people offer you advice? "I don't know what I'm doing, but don't you dare correct me!" Do you feel there is a route to success there? Here are two foundational marketing points that you seem never to have considered: 1) Every communication you place before the public is someone's first contact with your project; explain everything about your project in every post. 2) The more hoops you make your audience jump through, the smaller that audience will be; make it easy for the audience to follow your project. Your original post contains literally nothing except these two errors.
You say, "I still don't understand fully about Crowdfunding so I'm searching for a Campaign Manager". Yes, it is quite clear that you don't understand crowdfunding; that statement alone is proof of that. You failed at your self-run campaign, so your solution is to hire a campaign manager rather than, say, do some research and inform yourself? What do you expect a crowdfunding manager to do -- magically conjure an audience eager for your work? It seems the only thing you know about crowdfunding is, "Free money for me!" -- so the one thing you know is wrong. Just two free resources I recommend: Spend some time (a lot of time, given your current level of knowledge) reading the many helpful articles on the "Seed & Spark" website. When you have gained some idea what you're talking about, book a free consultation with Justin Giddings, "The Kickstarter Guy", to discuss your campaign. (Don't reverse the order of those two things, or you're wasting JG's time and your own.)
The best summation of crowdfunding is Ted Hope's famous dictum: "'Crowdfunding' is two words: 'crowd' and 'funding'. If you don't already have the crowd, you won't get the funding." The overwhelming majority of crowdfunding donations do not come from strangers; they come from your extended network: the people you know, and the people they know. Add up those people; multiply that total by the likely response rate; multiply that by the average donation; that's your budget. My back-of-the-envelope calculations, based on the publicly-available data, is that your budget is $5,000. And you want 35 times that amount?! That is simply not realistic.
And my god: "maybe you can put me in touch with a friend or colleagues on how to give it the attention and funding it needs." Do you really feel that this is a realistic ask? You want people to risk their reputations by giving away their most valuable and closely-guarded resources to an amateur they don't know who has no track record, for a project we have no reason to believe you can pull off let alone make a success -- and do this for free? This is the same attitude as those people who are sure Warner Discovery will give them carte blanche to finally "do Batman right", as soon as someone gives them James Gunn's cellphone number. Seriously: Give your head a shake, go to the bank, take out some money, and buy yourself a clue.
If you think I am harsh -- grow a thicker skin, or you will never succeed in this (or any) field. Better you hear this sort of thing here and now, rather than from the collaborators you've let down and the investors you've ripped off when your project collapses. This forum is a safe space; everyone here wants you to succeed. Things are much harsher in the real world. The audience is under no obligation to like your work, or to be nice if they don't. Investors want you to answer two questions: How are you going to pay me back plus profit? And when will the first cheque come in? If you don't have definite answers to those questions, the meeting is over and you won't get another one. A dream is not a plan.
Finally, despite what you may feel after reading this, I genuinely wish you success. I believe that independent creators are the salvation of the art and business of movie-making. You have been in a fallow period for a decade; the biggest reasons for that are your entitlement and ignorance. Good news! -- neither of those are fatal; both are curable. Get your ego out of your own way and stop trying to start at the top, and do some research on the field you want to enter, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the paths that open before you.
Break a leg!
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You sure you are genuinely wishing me success? As sarcastically intellectualism as you sound? You know, I'm a little learned myself in many areas such as Theology, History especially War, and Cinema, you see I read, a lot, for instance did you know that intellectualism is a form of Gnosticism which is demonic. Your god sounds like Satan? You don't think yourself superior or dare I say in unlearned layman's terms, "smarter" than others? Would you? And look who's talking of egos? If you think you are a good teacher or mentor, think again. They are humble and encouraging lifting up those they are teaching and mentoring. Oh and since you are such a learned expert of Entertainment, are you in or have you ever worked in the business of Cinema? I do not see any of your picture credits as proof? I wouldn't take your serpentine advice if you paid me. And if I get any others avoiding me or talking crap about me I'll know who got to them with poisonous accusations behind my back because you are probably that type or brood of viper. Again, do not judge me until you have met me. But I've got one bit of simple advice for you though, my Momma taught me that "when someone is pointing their finger at you they've got three fingers pointing back at them..." Or is that too simple and old school for you to understand? Rotten banana? Huh, you are probably one of those "brave new world" woke nut jobs, I wouldn't be surprised. This will be the last communication with you.
The OP is seriously accusing me of being possessed by demons? Blocked. Let's hope the men with the butterfly nets catch up with him before he harms himself or someone else.
Getting criticism can be painful. This has been an enlightening back-and-forth
for me to read. Something I have always liked about this forum.
for me to read. Something I have always liked about this forum.