Hello, this will be my first post. I have been reading threads on this forum maybe three times a week for, well, maybe two weeks. Reading this thread in it's entirety convinced me to create an account and give my feedback.
I completely agree with the article by Roger Edert. What good would seeing Philip Seymour Hoffman in 3D do? Or Edward Norton (other then possibly him as Bruce Banner. Though it would just be gimmicky.) or how about Robert Downey Jr, you can go on and on.
Only reason I bring this up is that there is no reason to see great actors performing extraordinary acting performances under the direction of a visionary director with a poetic script in 3D! There is not one, unless you want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman's forehead jump out at you, or maybe Juno's pregnant belly in 3D when Jason Reitman is forced to re-release Juno in 3D...
I digress on how obviously stupid it is to have nearly all films in 3D. The assumption that it is in fact a grand idea only comes from a place of greed that has pushed Hollywood and it's films into a pool of laughable storytelling.
My main point is going to be on Jame's Cameron's Avatar. I've only seen two of his films, Titanic (it's crazy the things a girl can make you do isn't it. On a plus side, it put me to sleep.) and Avatar.
Avatar was the first 3D film I've seen that I can remember other then one or two when I was a toddler. The only other one I've seen since then was Clash Of The Titans which was a total rip off. Garbage, garbage, and more garbage. (Other then Liam Neeson as Zeus and the scene's with the Gods, it was garbage.)
Okay so Avatar's story was not one hundred percent original, other then the planet created, all the creatures created which were done in this way: Take from one animal, and another, take the shoulder plate from him, and the jaw bone from this one and put them together. Yeah, it was all done to look like the creature moved properly and seemed real.
Nothing original other then the creation of plant life and a whole language! Yes, Na'vi is actually a full language (nearly full it lacks a few things which are being created now.) that Jame's Cameron assisted a Linguistics professor on creating.
Now Na'vi is being taught in a few universities in linguistics studies, to help students comprehend the complexities of languages through a language that is not fully constructed, they can assist in it's construction and learn from it.
If you don't call that much precision and attention to detail, that much stress and time consuming creation art, then I think you mine as well call a generic out of the factory chair, art!
I am Canadian, and from my perspective I think it's great to have the true American tale retold in this way. No extensive apology has been made to my knowledge from the American government much less the American people to the Native's who were massacred in a nation wide genocide that took place and is fundamentally ignored in America's history classes.
I say this not from a judging standpoint, I am Canadian. Though we did not partake in such a massive genocide as the Americans, many Native's were slaughtered and we did mistreat them in our own ways which have been apologized for. In my view not enough and just as in America we are not taught the full effects and stories of our past human rights violations.
Another merit to the story is outsourcing of military personnel to contractors, corporations who want money and nothing else. This was not the military as I once saw a movie reviewer say it was. It was ex-military personnel working for a company that was gathering materials for energy or whatever purposes from Pandora for Earth.
Whatever the cost.
Sounds a lot like the Tar Sands of Alberta, Canada which is the dirtiest oil (bitumen) known to man, that takes thousands of gallons of water to produce even one barrel of oil, that has risen the cancer rates all around where it is mined. The list does go on and on.
Or the off shore oil rigs in both America and Canada that have massive consequences when a spills happen and they happen every single day on a small scale. That adds up! Do some research on something called dead zones and tell me that has no merit.
Read between the lines, isn't that the real beauty of storytelling? How one story unravels many more, and many more for each individual as we all perceive things differently, we all interpret differently.
One last point, what is the original form of storytelling? It sure as hell was not dialogue or script. It was imagery, it was painting. Avatar makes you fall in love with the Na'vi people and the planet Pandora simply off of the amazing visuals.
In the case of Cameron's masterpiece (avatar.) it isn't simply 3D imagery, visual effects, a cheap gimmick. It is part of the story, and part of how he tells it. Can images of a city or of Niagra falls make you fall in love with that specific place?
Yes, but the way Cameron does it breaks boundaries, it is unique, it is special, and it is indeed, art.
Just as the art world pollutes art, Hollywood has polluted Avatar, and perhaps polluted Cameron as well. However, hasn't it polluted every one of you? Aren't you all discussing the merits of the film, basing it off of box office sales?
We have the story of mans chase for dirty energy at any cost, destroying people's livelihoods (such as throwing a farmer's family off of there family farm in order to get to oil or coal. (Happens in Canada daily.) and destroying the environment. We have the story of North America's history embedded in a fictional fantasy wonderworld.
We have the story of wounded human turned Na'vi hero, a story of inspiration, perseverance, dedication, and eventual success. No matter how you wrap such merits, they will come true for people who look past the hoopla and sit it aside long enough to absorb it all in.
I completely agree with the article by Roger Edert. What good would seeing Philip Seymour Hoffman in 3D do? Or Edward Norton (other then possibly him as Bruce Banner. Though it would just be gimmicky.) or how about Robert Downey Jr, you can go on and on.
Only reason I bring this up is that there is no reason to see great actors performing extraordinary acting performances under the direction of a visionary director with a poetic script in 3D! There is not one, unless you want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman's forehead jump out at you, or maybe Juno's pregnant belly in 3D when Jason Reitman is forced to re-release Juno in 3D...
I digress on how obviously stupid it is to have nearly all films in 3D. The assumption that it is in fact a grand idea only comes from a place of greed that has pushed Hollywood and it's films into a pool of laughable storytelling.
My main point is going to be on Jame's Cameron's Avatar. I've only seen two of his films, Titanic (it's crazy the things a girl can make you do isn't it. On a plus side, it put me to sleep.) and Avatar.
Avatar was the first 3D film I've seen that I can remember other then one or two when I was a toddler. The only other one I've seen since then was Clash Of The Titans which was a total rip off. Garbage, garbage, and more garbage. (Other then Liam Neeson as Zeus and the scene's with the Gods, it was garbage.)
Okay so Avatar's story was not one hundred percent original, other then the planet created, all the creatures created which were done in this way: Take from one animal, and another, take the shoulder plate from him, and the jaw bone from this one and put them together. Yeah, it was all done to look like the creature moved properly and seemed real.
Nothing original other then the creation of plant life and a whole language! Yes, Na'vi is actually a full language (nearly full it lacks a few things which are being created now.) that Jame's Cameron assisted a Linguistics professor on creating.
Now Na'vi is being taught in a few universities in linguistics studies, to help students comprehend the complexities of languages through a language that is not fully constructed, they can assist in it's construction and learn from it.
If you don't call that much precision and attention to detail, that much stress and time consuming creation art, then I think you mine as well call a generic out of the factory chair, art!
I am Canadian, and from my perspective I think it's great to have the true American tale retold in this way. No extensive apology has been made to my knowledge from the American government much less the American people to the Native's who were massacred in a nation wide genocide that took place and is fundamentally ignored in America's history classes.
I say this not from a judging standpoint, I am Canadian. Though we did not partake in such a massive genocide as the Americans, many Native's were slaughtered and we did mistreat them in our own ways which have been apologized for. In my view not enough and just as in America we are not taught the full effects and stories of our past human rights violations.
Another merit to the story is outsourcing of military personnel to contractors, corporations who want money and nothing else. This was not the military as I once saw a movie reviewer say it was. It was ex-military personnel working for a company that was gathering materials for energy or whatever purposes from Pandora for Earth.
Whatever the cost.
Sounds a lot like the Tar Sands of Alberta, Canada which is the dirtiest oil (bitumen) known to man, that takes thousands of gallons of water to produce even one barrel of oil, that has risen the cancer rates all around where it is mined. The list does go on and on.
Or the off shore oil rigs in both America and Canada that have massive consequences when a spills happen and they happen every single day on a small scale. That adds up! Do some research on something called dead zones and tell me that has no merit.
Read between the lines, isn't that the real beauty of storytelling? How one story unravels many more, and many more for each individual as we all perceive things differently, we all interpret differently.
One last point, what is the original form of storytelling? It sure as hell was not dialogue or script. It was imagery, it was painting. Avatar makes you fall in love with the Na'vi people and the planet Pandora simply off of the amazing visuals.
In the case of Cameron's masterpiece (avatar.) it isn't simply 3D imagery, visual effects, a cheap gimmick. It is part of the story, and part of how he tells it. Can images of a city or of Niagra falls make you fall in love with that specific place?
Yes, but the way Cameron does it breaks boundaries, it is unique, it is special, and it is indeed, art.
Just as the art world pollutes art, Hollywood has polluted Avatar, and perhaps polluted Cameron as well. However, hasn't it polluted every one of you? Aren't you all discussing the merits of the film, basing it off of box office sales?
We have the story of mans chase for dirty energy at any cost, destroying people's livelihoods (such as throwing a farmer's family off of there family farm in order to get to oil or coal. (Happens in Canada daily.) and destroying the environment. We have the story of North America's history embedded in a fictional fantasy wonderworld.
We have the story of wounded human turned Na'vi hero, a story of inspiration, perseverance, dedication, and eventual success. No matter how you wrap such merits, they will come true for people who look past the hoopla and sit it aside long enough to absorb it all in.
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