Which Language should i use in Movie??

HI these days i am planning to write ascript. and i want it to have global access.just wanted to know should i write in my mother tongue which is URDU and subtitled in English? or should i go with English???i personally think directly dubbing in English will give me more higher chanse to attract sales agents and distributors......... the only problem will be of accent............
 
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Make your first movie in your native language.

Luc Besson did it.
Wolfgang Peterson did it.
Guillermo del Toro did it.
Mira Nair did it.
Michael Haneke did it.
Costa-Gavras did it.
Werner Herzog did it.

I don't think Ingmar Bergman, Kinji Fukasaku or Akira Kurosawa ever
made a movie in english and they did okay.

Tell the best story you know and make a compelling, interesting movie
in your native language. You can reach the international audience
first and the english speaking audience in the future.
 
Thanks Directorik.

Actually somewhere (may be on this site or somewhere else) i read that international audience dont like to see movies which have subtitles. The main problem is Pakisyan's(my home land) cinema industry isnt big and chances of getting any revenue from it is less because the public here dont go to cinema most often because of piracy.Only in case if we have big stars and huge marketing budget only then there is a chance. So when ever i will make a movie i will have to target not my people but to international market. Bus as i read people dont like movies with subtitles i was reluctant to start my script.i was confused what to do??


By the way Directorik please tell me something about you???what do you do?your experience etc etc??from which country you are???


Regards
 
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Hi

Firstly good luck with your film.

One thing you need to understand is that there is more than one market for films... and different markets like different films.

So, if you're making a film for American Cinemas, then you won't be able to sell a subtitled movie... because the main stream American audience won't go to see them. However, they're also not interested in independent American movies, who don't have big stars in them. So, even if you made your film in English you wouldn't get access to that market.

The world cinema market is independent of that, although they still sell into America... and there are distributors who take on foreign language films for sales into all of the world's territories... both for arthouse cinemas, TV and DVD sales.

Different countries handle foreign language films in different ways... so, in Mexico and Italy they always dub a Native Language soundtrack... mainly because this is how those countries consume American films. Some countries like the UK and France prefer subtitles...

What this means is you have to do lots of research into how International world cinema distributor acquire their films... there are some who specialise in Asian movies.

In terms of production, I'd suggest you film in your original language... but make sure when you mix the sound, that the dialogue is kept on a stereo pair separately from the rest of the sound track... that way you can take out the dialogue and provide a soundtrack suitable for dubbing.

The other thing that occurred to me is this... isn't Urdu almost identical to Hindustani? And isn't that the primary language of the Indian film industry... the international Indian film distribution network is one of the largest and most profitable in the world.
 
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Thanks a lot clive for guiding me.well URDU is nearly the same as of HINDI.........but indian film industry itself releases more then 1000 movies per year even failing Hollywood so just targeting Indian Market might be riskier for me.i was targeting different countries(not including US,UK,INDIA) like Italy,germany,newzeland, france ....

well can you guide me alittle more about distribution.your information is realy very much valueable for me......please give me more tips and guidence so that when i will start writing the script i will be content.

Like you said that US people even dont like to see Indie Movies of their country men having big stars.so it is a big news for me.

Can you tell me which are the major countries having huge viewership of indie movies?????


Regards
 
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Can you give me some clues about how can i do research on International world cinema distributor stuff which you mentioned as

What this means is you have to do lots of research into how International world cinema distributor acquire their films... there are some who specialise in Asian movies.



Regards
 
The easiest way is to look for films like the one you want to sell... then look at who distributed that film. Then google the distribution company and read everything about them. Do the same for all the film makers from your region they distribute.

Then contact them with a polite email asking how they prefer to be approached...

... at the same time find out which festivals they send people to and get your film into those festivals... or at the very least get yourself to those festivals and make some introductions.
 
Only in case if we have big stars and huge marketing budget only then there is a chance.

That’s exactly the same here in the States. No different than in
your country. A movie without big stars and a huge marketing
budget has a very difficult time here, too. There just aren’t any
major countries that have a huge viewership of indie movies.
Audiences love to see their favorite stars in a movie. And without
a big marketing budget, people don't even know a movie is out
there to be seen.

You are just like the rest of here on indietalk. We are all
independent filmmakers making movies with very little money, no
marketing budget and no name stars. You must do what you have the
passion for.

The good news is it’s only the English speaking countries that
don’t like films with subtitles. Almost all non English speaking
countries see subtitles films all the time - Italy, Germany,
France, Japan, Hong Kong to name a few.

So as long as you have a movie that is interesting, international
in theme, has compelling characters and an excellent story, you
should be able to reach an international market.

Then with your second film you can think about making one in
English.

But get that first script written. Without a great, finished
script, not of this really matters.
 
I am realy very very thanks full to you people

well i asked you to tell me about your self....


Directoik and Clive.


want to know what do you people do??in which country you live?which City???any professional experience?????
tell me about yourself

Regards
 
My background is written in my profile... I guess rik's is as well

(Sorry Rik, never needed to check :blush:)

LATER:

Just updated it... must get a new photo
 
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Oh thats great Clive.......it means i am lucky to have people like you around me who are great achievers. :d


well by the way what happened of your movie which had abudget of 400,000????

any link or trailor available????
 
well by the way what happened of your movie which had a budget of 400,000????

:lol:

Here's a link to the trailer

As to what happened -- well, what normally happens when you make a movie -- my business partner and I decided we couldn't work with each other. So, I left the company. Leaving him to secure distribution.

He pushed the movie around a number of sales agents and distributors (who all liked the movie, but couldn't figure out how to make money from it) ... so ZERO distribution and ZERO return on the investment.

At the moment it's gathering dust on my business partner's shelf... and I strongly suspect that even if it did get distribution I'd be the last person to know. I didn't know until a year after the event that it had been shown at a major London Film Festival (Go figure)

Sadly this kind of story is common in the film industry and is one of the main reasons I've pretty much given up on conventional production and movies that require a budget.

If it's any use to you, I completely understand where I went wrong:

1) I didn't get my script right... there were some basic structural flaws in the story arc
2) I trusted my business partner when he said "I can sell this"... when what he meant was "I THINK I can sell this"
3) I didn't think about my film's natural place in the market... I assumed that all you had to do was make a good film... when, in fact, all you need is to make a film that is easy to sell.
4) I didn't stick true to my own business instincts... my original plan was to make a low budget genre movie, based on my screenplay "Bloodbath"... which probably would have secured distribution and have made a profit.
5) I didn't think think how the film was to marketed until after the film was completed.
6) I made a film using new technology, without understanding the post production workflow (what this meant was, a film that was supposed to take 6 months to complete took three years... and, we ended up spend thousands of pounds solving stupid workflow problems)

Hope this helps.

The basic rules seem to be:

1) Know how to pitch your film to an audience in as few words as possible
2) Understand your production workflow and be SURE that it works, by testing it
3) Know the names of the ten people who are most likely to buy your movie, before you start shooting
4) Don't trust your business partner
 
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Clive your infor about

If it's any use to you, I completely understand where I went wrong:

is realy of great importance to me.But there are few things shocking please make it clear to me friend.

you said
I assumed that all you had to do was make a good film... when, in fact, all you need is to make a film that is easy to sell.

how can we differentiate between the good movie??and between the movie which is easily saleable????i am making some ideas of a movie and the concept is different and interesting and near to the reality but how can i make it sure that it is easily saleable in the market???can you tell me about it??

another thing you said that

3) Know the names of the ten people who are most likely to buy your movie, before you start shooting

suppose if i am a young filmmaker making a movie for the first time how can i be sure that thoes ten [or even one] is realy interested in buying my movie when it is my first time??how can somebody trust me?????

can you tell me about it??



last but not the least ...i will not say thanks to you people because the guidence you are showing is of great worth and cannot be compensated by saying thanks...you can say words are getting smaller to say thanks to you people



Regards



3) I didn't think about my film's natural place in the market...
can you explain me exactly what did you mean by this??

secondly you said
 
Clive can you also guide me about

5) I didn't think think how the film was to marketed until after the film was completed.

i think marketing isnt the job of indie filmmaker as it needs a big budget. If i am right then why you said this?and if i am wrong then how can i get finance for marketing???


please put some light on this topic too



Regards
 
i think marketing isnt the job of indie filmmaker as it needs a big budget. If i am right then why you said this?and if i am wrong then how can i get finance for marketing???

Ah... that's a common misunderstanding which almost everyone makes.

What takes the budget is ADVERTISING... marketing is the process of designing and packaging a product for the market.

So, when I say marketing I mean understanding who I'm going to sell the film too and how my film meets the needs of my customers.

Where a lot of film makers go wrong is in thinking the final audience are their customers... they aren't. A film maker's customers are distributors.

So marketing a film is about knowing that your film as a product is the kind of thing distributors will buy.

Distributors are looking for easy money... a film that will sell lots of units and into lots of territories. The easier you make it for them, the better your chance of selling your movie.

Distributors make their judgments based on buying patterns of customer:

So, for instance, people generally will chose a film they've heard of, over a film they haven't; people chose to watch films by directors they've heard of, over directors they haven't; people chose films based on genre; people chose films which have generated some media attention, over films that didn't get any press... and finally, people choose films on the basis of the movie poster... where all there is, is an image and maybe twenty words.

What this means is, any film maker needs to think about what it is about their film which will attract either press attention... or how their film will be OBVIOUSLY attractive to an audience. It's got to be obvious, because a distributor has to believe instantly that the film can do business.

It's not good enough to just make a good film... because your film's concept is actually more important.

As a rule of thumb, a bad film with a good concept will make more money than a good film with a bad concept.

Of course make a great film, with a fantastic concept and you're laughing.

Where I went wrong was... good film, weak concept, no name cast, no genre.

The problem was I didn't know that until after I'd invested three years and all my money into it... something I could have avoided if I'd tried to design the poster for the film pre-production.

The other part of marketing is market research.

For films this means two things... designing your poster and testing it on everyone you know... and, going to as many "professional" film festivals as possible and talking to people.

You need to talk to distributors and find out what they're really looking for.
 
Well thanks a lot for telling so much to me..looks like i have got a treasue with me. :d

well so the basic thing is before starting my script or anything i should consider the market?

im myslef planning a light comedy movie. i dont say it will realy make some one crasy due to laughters.But if thats a weekend and somebody want to see something light comedy and a little unexpeced comedy situations {again remember what i said not something based on high laughters} he will enjoy my movie....i am targeting the Indian market first as it is the best option available for me.with that i will target markets like Italy hongkong china.I am preferring DVD sales first as i think making a movie for CINEMA screen at the first step is realy hard.

Can you put some (Intence) light light on making a movie and selling it on DVDs????are there distributors for that sort of stuff in international market???


I would again say Clive i am felling in love with you friend.


You just Rock. [:d]
 
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Please it is a request guide me more about how can i do market research for my movie??Distributors and Festival are the 2 options i know. Anything else???



Lots of Regards
 
Yes, there are international DVD distributors.

You might also want to check out this site Jaman

If you look at the kind of Asian films they distribute, it should give you a sense of the potential market.
 
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