Warner Brothers will reboot Batman.

I think my biggest issue with it was that tease at the end of a Robin movie. I don't really want to see a Robin/Nightwing solo movie. I want to see Batman, and if Robin's in it great - if not, then I'm not fussed. Plus, it was relatively obvious that this was going to be the last one - I don't want to see a Robin film just because the studio wants to make more money, and I'd be heartily disappointed if their reasoning for putting it in there was to leave it open 'just in case'.

I think Nolan created a decent three-part series, the standout of which was TDK. IMO, Batman Begins is firmly seated in the fantasy/superhero genre, whereas TDKR is firmly seated in the gritty/realistic genre. I think TDK bridges the two in a middle-ground genre combining both the cool superhero Batman we like to see, as well as keeping it firmly in a gritty reality.
The issue now is that this series was so good, and received so well, it's going to be hard for WB to completely reboot Batman and have audiences follow them, at least for quite a few years. I;d like this series to be the one that channels into the Justice League movie, but I don't know I can see that happening. I feel they're going to want to go for more of the Avengers feel.

That said, with Nolan producing Man of Steel, it's quite possible he will help bring that similar gritty feel to it, so maybe we'll see a grittier Justice League series and movie - I personally think that would be great and would provide a great juxtaposition to the airy, fluffy, fantastical Avengers series and movie. Plus, I'd rather watch a realistic, gritty 'superhero' movie over a fun fantasy type one.

I do hope though that they reboot Green Lantern for a Justice League movie
 
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I think it would be very interesting if WB went that gritty crime drama route indeed. Like you say, Jax, if for no other reason than to provide that juxtapostional superhero world to Disney's light and airy one. Variety is the spice of life. =)
 
Okay, now I've seen the movie and I can play too! Now, there is no *need* for a reboot. You can keep it going, even without Nolan and Bale.
But Wayne surviving/retiring was foreshadowed really early in the film, the first time Catwoman mentions the "Clean Slate" tool. Wayne had been spending years aquring technology he felt would be "dangerous" in the hands of someone other than him (because putting all your eggs in one metaphoric basket is always a good idea....) But also bear in mind that a significant portion of time was spent on the "Batman can be anyone...it's a symbol, not a person" concept. Leading into the end (he could be Robin, Nightwing or even just a new Batman and it would work within the context of that world). Anyway, given the Clean Slate, I think it's a fair assumption to make that he faked his death...though Alfred would have to had faked his death, not knowing that he was doing so. He thought that Batman had died, and if he wasn't pro-active in making Bruce dead too, people would have put 2 and 2 together.

I don't expect Nolan to do another film, but on the other hand, I don't trust a word he says. After Begins, he said he didn't want to do another. Or put Robin in a film EVER (that's debatable with the ending to TDKR, but still). After Dark Knight, he said he was done with Batman. Then he said he had always planned a trilogy (did you REALLY, Chris?). Now he's done with Batman forever. Again. I like his films, but the man seems a bit flaky. Or maybe just prone to making absolute statements.

I'd like to see more Batman films. If they're going to do JLA, I'd like to see them start setting it up with the next one. I would NOT like to see the series rebooted to do so. Let it change and grow, but we don't need to see the origin story again. If they're going to do JLA, Batman's world needs to be more supernatural than Nolan's vision, but you can meet halfway.
 
Might I be so bold as to suggest that at least we all are in agreement on one thing?
There is no need to reboot this franchise in order to make Justice League. Agreed -- any future installments would have to start involving the supernatural, but since the series would be taking a major tonal shift by adding/staring Robin, who cares? The spirit of this trilogy is finished, but no need for a new origin story.
I really hope they don't reboot.

As for the Occupy stuff -- I can see how some might see the Occupy movement as being vilified, but when I was watching, I didn't feel the same way (and for what it's worth, I'm super liberal). Just because it was a bunch of poor people terrorizing the rich, I didn't feel like they represented all poor people -- just the criminal portion of the poor. It is worth mentioning, after all, that Bane's first move, after blowing up the Steelers, was to release all prisoners from lockup. So, I interpreted the chaos as criminals running wild, with no authorities to keep them in check, while all the sane people (including those who sympathize with Occupy) stayed holed up in their homes.

Josh -- one of the first things I wondered, regarding the inclusion of Robin, was whether or not Nolan's hands were tied on that one. It's possible that the studio might have insisted on it, to leave room for sequels, with or without Nolan's direction. Maybe. Just a thought.
 
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Personally, I'm glad he's out. Nolan's trilogy is, in my opinion, perhaps the finest trilogy ever made, in any genre. I think he capped it off perfectly.
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Nope. Unfortunately the only two trilogies where each was worthy of each other were the The Lord of the Rings, original Star Wars, Three Colors and Toy Story series.

The Bat trilogy still ranks higher than The Godfather trio, the Spider-man films and definitely the Matrix saga, but not by much.

I am still bummed that they are going to reboot the franchise. While TDKR fell short of being outstanding, the previous two were just perfect. I honestly hope they do something wildly different, like Aronofsky's planned Year One film.
 
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As for the Occupy stuff -- I can see how some might see the Occupy movement as being vilified, but when I was watching, I didn't feel the same way (and for what it's worth, I'm super liberal). Just because it was a bunch of poor people terrorizing the rich, I didn't feel like they represented all poor people -- just the criminal portion of the poor. It is worth mentioning, after all, that Bane's first move, after blowing up the Steelers, was to release all prisoners from lockup. So, I interpreted the chaos as criminals running wild, with no authorities to keep them in check, while all the sane people (including those who sympathize with Occupy) stayed holed up in their homes.
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I think that's pretty much it, despite what I wrote above. =)
 
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The dark knight rises is much better than all the others? so what heath ledger did a good job, however this movie topples it, left me with a wow, whereas the jokers plot left me with a oh this is good, not saying it was rubbish, however for me TDKR was just a perfect story, the fightback was emotional, my disappointment came when the movie ended because i know we will never get a better trilogy than this.
 
I just really hope they go in a vastly new direction. Obviously they have to keep his character as a heir and orphan but his training and beginning should be different. Preferably a little cruder.
 
It came from a comic so a comic can explain

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Yup ... pretty much sums it up
 
Ok, just saw it today, IMAX style (really, didn't feel that much of a difference but still felt good to watch it on such a big screen).

I feel so sad that the trilogy is over. I wish there was some kind of a device to erase my memories of this one and watch it again. I remember the joy I felt during the early minutes of the movie.

I was kinda confused about the time flow during the movie. Bruce is held imprisoned for nearly three months and doesn't loose his muscular body while eating what looks like a tiny piece of chips a day ?
And the left the Pit (supposedly in the Carribean) and just teleported to Gotham finding everyone he needs ?

Also, the fact that Talia was the villain made the plot a little dull for me. The Joker motivations were hazy ("some people just want to watch the world burn"), and Bane could have been something like that except this time anarchist. But Talia killing 12 million people to avenge her father she didn't like much ? Come on... The movie felt very Dark before that and went kindda childish after that.

All in all, what I remember most is Anne's Catwoman lifting her legs more than my excitement can stand, not to mention every time she drives the Batpod, lifting her magnificent hugged ass a little more than necessary... I think I'm in love now.

Now I wanna know more about Nolan. How he came to direct this ? What was his part in the original screenplay ? Did he offer to WB to make a Batman movie or was the movie planned anyway ? I just love the realistic feel of the movie and the british humour.

Edit : Ok about my last questions, I have an element of response http://www.amazon.com/The-Making-Dark-Knight-Trilogy/dp/1419703692
 
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I am open for a reboot to the Batman franchise as long as we don't need to cover the back story of Bruce Wayne's journey to becoming Batman a second time. The whole point of Batman Begins was to tell this story more fully. There's no need to repeat the same story arc.

I think there is an opportunity to create a new Batman story with a different focus on the character, for example creating a film where he utilises his detective skills more overtly, which hasn't been the main focus as yet for a live-action movie.

It would be a great way to incorporate the villain of the Riddler and make it more of a cat and mouse game between him and Batman with the riddles he concocts for Batman to solve. Jim Carrey's take on the Riddler should not be the approach for that character if he were used again in a Batman movie though.

But to reboot Batman and re-tread the exact same ground is definitely not something I personally would like to see.
 
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