First of all, hello! I'm new here. Let's get right to the point! I spent the summer with my cousins in the Bronx. Cursing is part of their vocabulary. They use it as humor also, which gave me an idea for a screenplay. Now..., do I stay true to the character, or is cursing frowned upon. Also, slang. How is that taken.
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Using curse words
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Ef yoo noze enee direkters or peepl lookin too spend like milyunz let me no! I mene I shoad (shode?) this to sum gie sed he red skrips an the
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don't no a good skrip wen it pounds em in the face.
, no wunder so menee bad films in Hollywood wen thay wont even look a ahsum storee lak mine.
Thanks Rayw. See I noo youd get it.
If ya wanna hep, I kan make a fotocopy of the napkin for ya.
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Thanks Rayw. See I noo youd get it.
If ya wanna hep, I kan make a fotocopy of the napkin for ya.
You're right. I was tired from a long day and my blood sugar was way low. I'm not very tolerant of inanity under those conditions. I've had my chocolate. My apologies.
rayw, I'm starting to see a pattern here, which is that you dominate every thread. Can I ask, is that because you think you know everything, or is it just because you require a lot of attention?
Tarantino's grammar is terrible, and you're going to say, well, it doesn't matter because he directs himself, but, smartypants, a producer had to read it to like it too. No one makes movies on their own. Others are going to have to work with the script, whether you direct it yourself or not.
Most producers, indie ones anyway, are worse at grammar than anyone. They don't even notice.
Tarantino's grammar is terrible, and you're going to say, well, it doesn't matter because he directs himself, but, smartypants, a producer had to read it to like it too. No one makes movies on their own. Others are going to have to work with the script, whether you direct it yourself or not.
Most producers, indie ones anyway, are worse at grammar than anyone. They don't even notice.
Darling, some people see Jesus on their toast.
I only dominate my bowl of cereal in the morning.
I believe you've made more posts in this thread than I have, have posted more words than I have, and have still influenced the least amount of people with the position you valiantly maintain.
Well done.
Capital investment!
Nannu nannu.
I only dominate my bowl of cereal in the morning.
I believe you've made more posts in this thread than I have, have posted more words than I have, and have still influenced the least amount of people with the position you valiantly maintain.
Well done.
Capital investment!
Nannu nannu.
I avoid F-bombs when I can, using them only in key places for power, character arc or emphasizing a point.
Using the F-bomb shock when it is important to shock.
e.g. In the haunted movie, (the story-line is about a low-budget, indie-filmmaker and the movie he is making -- from his own pocket) there is a scene where the beautiful, lead actress who is trying to manipulate the filmmaker for control of the production, tries to seduce, fails and attacks with the line, "if you don't f#*k me, I'll f#*k you... trust me", as she follows him down the stairs from a bedroom, nude (different versions) with finger nails extended. It is a part of her character arc.
It is also a set-up that works, pushing the story forward with a sucker punch that no one sees coming...
I go for the 'real' (work hard at it, anyway)... trying to push the envelope with language and pace. I am still learning and certainly no authority or expert, especially with curse words...
Just because others use them every other word... I would never try to copy someone else's style in writing, directing, acting, etc. OR use curse words just because they are curse words...
My 2 cents. I am not rich or famous, just someone that has fun being creative.
Using the F-bomb shock when it is important to shock.
e.g. In the haunted movie, (the story-line is about a low-budget, indie-filmmaker and the movie he is making -- from his own pocket) there is a scene where the beautiful, lead actress who is trying to manipulate the filmmaker for control of the production, tries to seduce, fails and attacks with the line, "if you don't f#*k me, I'll f#*k you... trust me", as she follows him down the stairs from a bedroom, nude (different versions) with finger nails extended. It is a part of her character arc.
It is also a set-up that works, pushing the story forward with a sucker punch that no one sees coming...
I go for the 'real' (work hard at it, anyway)... trying to push the envelope with language and pace. I am still learning and certainly no authority or expert, especially with curse words...
Just because others use them every other word... I would never try to copy someone else's style in writing, directing, acting, etc. OR use curse words just because they are curse words...
My 2 cents. I am not rich or famous, just someone that has fun being creative.
That's right, no copying. Or brainless conformity.
But I've got another story for you. I wrote a short for an animator, quite a long time ago now, but it ended up getting an international launch on Discovery. Which I didn't know about. Everything takes so long, you can easily lose track of where things ends up. So one night, I was at a really big party, having a whale of a time, so much so, I crashed on the couch, and then in the morning, the tv was left on, and I woke up to the sound track of the film. But, I got a weird feeling of not knowing if I was dreaming, because I didn't REALIZE it was coming from the tv, because nobody bothered to tell me it was going to be on!
You know, that little "have I gone mad" tremble?
Anyway, good things happen along the way.
And, btw, that had nothing to do with grammar.
But I've got another story for you. I wrote a short for an animator, quite a long time ago now, but it ended up getting an international launch on Discovery. Which I didn't know about. Everything takes so long, you can easily lose track of where things ends up. So one night, I was at a really big party, having a whale of a time, so much so, I crashed on the couch, and then in the morning, the tv was left on, and I woke up to the sound track of the film. But, I got a weird feeling of not knowing if I was dreaming, because I didn't REALIZE it was coming from the tv, because nobody bothered to tell me it was going to be on!
You know, that little "have I gone mad" tremble?
Anyway, good things happen along the way.
And, btw, that had nothing to do with grammar.
Sometimes has nothing to do with the script either. As most writers discover, directors and actors will make the script work in their own way, rewriting it as needed to make the scene work. Screenwriters should never be too attached to their scripts unless they plan to direct and produce it themselves.
Many viral videos are unscripted. "Plan 9 from Outer Space" is a cult classic, but not because of an outstanding script. I'm not suggesting that is the case, I'm just presenting an example. The animation, visual effects or the sound track can carry the entire show. The "Yellow Submarine" has a decent story, but the Beatles' music and the animation make it memorable. In contrast, there are tons of people who have memorized the lines of "Rocky Horror Picture Show" but part of that was the actors' deliveries are so beautifully timed. It's not always the script that makes a movie or animation sensational. You need to read the reviews. As Don mentioned, movies are a team effort.
I salute your accomplishment. Getting a film out there is always something to respected. I hope you at least got credit. I'm surprised Discovery didn't contact you for a release unless you did work-for-hire for the animator. Who owns the copyright? Did you sign it over? As much as I enjoy seeing my work produced, I also want to receive credit, payment, or some recognition of my contribution. It's important for new writers to be very aware of their copyright privileges. It would stink to have one's work appear later with no compensation.
Many viral videos are unscripted. "Plan 9 from Outer Space" is a cult classic, but not because of an outstanding script. I'm not suggesting that is the case, I'm just presenting an example. The animation, visual effects or the sound track can carry the entire show. The "Yellow Submarine" has a decent story, but the Beatles' music and the animation make it memorable. In contrast, there are tons of people who have memorized the lines of "Rocky Horror Picture Show" but part of that was the actors' deliveries are so beautifully timed. It's not always the script that makes a movie or animation sensational. You need to read the reviews. As Don mentioned, movies are a team effort.
I salute your accomplishment. Getting a film out there is always something to respected. I hope you at least got credit. I'm surprised Discovery didn't contact you for a release unless you did work-for-hire for the animator. Who owns the copyright? Did you sign it over? As much as I enjoy seeing my work produced, I also want to receive credit, payment, or some recognition of my contribution. It's important for new writers to be very aware of their copyright privileges. It would stink to have one's work appear later with no compensation.
I think I handed over rights when I gave it to the animator.
But good point about compensation. It really cuts to the bone when you feel you've been screwed, and it's very common. I never worried about giving away shorts, they're a learning experience for everyone, and rarely return a profit, it's just great to see them as a film.
But my agent has always said, never hand over a script for back end alone, not for a feature. Never.
If they're that hard up that they can't pay the writer, then maybe they should still be making shorts. Or write their own script.
It's over features that writers get burned.
But good point about compensation. It really cuts to the bone when you feel you've been screwed, and it's very common. I never worried about giving away shorts, they're a learning experience for everyone, and rarely return a profit, it's just great to see them as a film.
But my agent has always said, never hand over a script for back end alone, not for a feature. Never.
If they're that hard up that they can't pay the writer, then maybe they should still be making shorts. Or write their own script.
It's over features that writers get burned.
Your theory that someone will just start to understand inherent mistakes because they see big red circles is incredibly spurious. You have to study grammar to understand it.
For example, if I make a spelling mistake, using "there", as in location, instead of "their", possessive, seeing someone circle "there" doesn't tell me what is wrong, or how to correct it. Grammar is far more complex in its rules than spelling - you don't learn grammar by repetitive writing, as you stated earlier, or by writing and having your work proofread, as you now assert. You learn grammar by learning grammar.
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You're twisting it to sound like something that it's not, creative writing isn't repetitive writing. And I would sometimes ask why the red circle was there. And once you've corrected an error often enough, you tend to be aware of it.
And, steve, you can't change the fact that that's how I learned.
And, steve, you can't change the fact that that's how I learned.
I'm not trying to change the fact that's how you learned - I'm saying "you learned".
It didn't just come to you, as you said in your first statement: "Proper grammar just comes naturally over time, as you clock up a few writing hours. As you learn to re read carefully, as you become inclined to redraft, as you write on a plan rather than just inspiration."
See? Grammar didn't just "come naturally to you over time" - you got feedback, corrections, asked questions, and learned. That has been my point, and what you have been trying to deny. It's not just a matter of "clocking hours writing" - you worked with someone who had more knowledge than you, they showed you corrections, you asked questions, and they TAUGHT you. Grammar is learned, it isn't instinctive, or a muscle that is developed by just typing words for hours on end.
Right?
gelder
jeez .....louise...
Now you're making it sound like I "worked at it", which I didn't.
I don't think anyone should go out and try to "learn" grammar for grammar's sake. That suggestion could discourage writers who didn't finish high school from writing scripts, by making them think they're disadvantaged in some way.
I wasn't disadvantaged by it. It was never an issue for me.
Now you're making it sound like I "worked at it", which I didn't.
I don't think anyone should go out and try to "learn" grammar for grammar's sake. That suggestion could discourage writers who didn't finish high school from writing scripts, by making them think they're disadvantaged in some way.
I wasn't disadvantaged by it. It was never an issue for me.
Okay. Whatever. You're obviously not going to admit the fact that grammar isn't a natural thing, and that language and its usage is learned. But you are completely and absolutely wrong.
gelder