music The strength of music

Right! I was just wondering if there will ever come a time where music feels out of place in a film.
Doubt it! Music is so much part of our everyday lives (unlike laughter!) that any film without it would probably feel very unnatural.

Writing that, I'm reminded of a remark made by Robert Zemekis in his commentary on Castaway: other during than the opening sequence (a parcel's FedEx journey) there is no music at all until Tom Hanks escapes from his island. It's a subtle but effective technique to reinforce our understanding of how he is completely cut off from normal civilisation.
 
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Doubt it! Music is so much part of our everyday lives (unlike laughter!) that any film without it would probably feel very unnatural.

Writing that, I'm reminded of a remark made by Robert Zemekis in his commentary on Castaway: other during than the opening sequence (a parcel's FedEx journey) there is no music at all until Tom Hanks escapes from his island. It's a subtle but effective technique to reinforce our understanding of how he is completely cut off from normal civilisation.
Its a good example. The score for No Country for Old Men, Festen or my dinner with Andre are also examples where the minimalism helps the story forward.

But I tink there are moments in certain movies that music that will get you out of the experience. Book smart is so full of pop music that it took me out of it.
 
But I tink there are moments in certain movies that music that will get you out of the experience. Book smart is so full of pop music that it took me out of it.
I agree. Many low-budget movies (or rather "I need content, gimme a movie now" movies) do seem to use any old music instead of dialogue, and that makes you wonder why they bothered making the movie at all. I've noticed, too, that several recent TV series have adopted a formula that ends every episode with a long-drawn-out montage and a "powerful" song. The Blacklist is one that comes immediately to mind, but it's not the only one.

But IMO those are examples of bad film-making/bad post-production, not an inherent problem with the strength or weakness of the music. By way of contrast, another Tom Hanks example where I think the specific choice of song perfectly enhances the comedic moment:

 

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Than I recoment you watch starfish. Soundtrack and the way the tape music is used is realy good in this movie.
Thank you! I'll be sure to check that out. Looks very intriguing.

Sometimes a big bombastic score is exactly what the audience needs and sometimes silence is golden
I agree, let's just take Psycho. A whole minute of silence and dripping water building up to the most iconic murder scene ever. 👌
 
Music in films can make people feel any emotion you like. The purpose of music is to amplify the feeling that is on screen.
For instance if a character dies, that’s sad right. Add a really depressing and sad track to that. The sadness and emotion rises by %50 or more. That at least is what I think the true, deep meaning of music is. To amplify the emotions that are on screen. Or to amplify the ‘feel’ of a location.
And sometimes no music, a dead silence will amplify the tension as well.

It gets deeper than that though.
Something called Leitmotifs.
For instance what if there is a happy theme for a character at the start of the film.
Let’s say Billy has a happy theme with his girlfriend in a film. Then there is tension between them, maybe the girls old lover returns or something and she cheats on billy and goes with her old lover. Then that could be a good time to put the same theme again. The same theme that was played at the start, Love theme, but this time it sounds darker. Lower pitch violins, dark sounding love theme. Dirty to mirror her cheating.
Then maybe later Billy finds out she was cheating and there could be a little hint to the same love theme...but this time subtle, sad, and as he realizes more and more the sad love them grows louder. Until it becomes a broken love theme.
Then maybe eventually by the end of the film he forgives her and they continue on, always remembering the cheat but moving on cause they love each other. Idk maybe she ended up dumping her old lover and saying she was really sorry to him. While she says sorry desperately realizing she loved billy truly the love theme becomes desperate. Maybe there could be rain in the scene. The same love theme played but desperate.
After that he forgives her and they go on. Eventually getting over it.
Then the love them would be happy again but a bit more solemn and experienced, relieved.
So yeah you see how music can literally mirror the feelings, but music isn’t there just to “sound good” or “fit the scene.”
Music is in the film to amplify the emotion, to progress the story.
If your movie is amazing, if it’s a good movie. Put well placed Tracks, to amplify the emotion 10 times over. It really can make a difference.

But there are many other techniques too such as silence at points. Maybe only one theme at the end perhaps.
It all depends, but nonetheless that’s my opinion.
That music is there to amplify the (emotions) on screen.
 
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