Suggest a name and tagline for the movie

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Hi i just watched SAW 1 and after that an idea came in my mind....(dont worry just the main theme of movie). I have finished the final story and now converting it to a rough script now.
The story revolves around 3 murders which are linked with each other... 3 innocent people are murdered by a phyco killer and the killer has now challenged the detective (working on these murders) of the town to catch him before he catches the detective.....

What can be the name of the movie and what can be the tagline for it??
I thought to name it "Escape" because in all 3 murders the killer gave the chance to the victims to free them from their respective traps and run with in a specific time......what do you say???

Will waiting for you too...you helped me a lot in suggesting the tag line for my other story.


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Zensteve hey friend i have any negetive intentions. Just was surprised that indietalk.com is so creative and active place and 32 views.but still no one out with a great idea.:D


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I dunno, call it Saw Se7en?

How about shoot the entire movie in one location- a picnic- and call the movie "A Murder Mystery Picnic".

Here's the plot: A Detective is saving a cat from a tree when a car hits an electrical pole and it falls over on the both of them causing the Detective's and Cat's brains to switch because of a strange Quantum Pulse that comes from the core our our Earth. The cat turns out to be an evil one (see Rob Yanetta, aka Loud Orange Cat for more information) and now it is up to the (feline) Detective to stop his cat-possessed body from murdering everyone at the local Auto Workers Union Closing-Time Family Picnic... but who will believe a cat?

The third act twist could be that after our feline hero escapes being put down at the Humane Society, he recruits an army of stray animals and raids the picnic, killing his cat-owned-body and saving the day. Then the chief of police promotes him and lets him live at the station....

Here's an even better title: "Pussy PI" or "The Pussy Dick".

In the sequels, our crime-fighting cat could take on the mafia or the aliens... the possibilities are endless! All hail the Pussy PI!!!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you've described the genre and the barest of outlines- but coming up with a title is MUCH easier when you have the "high concept" or the "hook" for your movie. AKA- what is the UNIQUE aspect of your story that puts it APART from either Saw or Se7en?

The title is so important, because most people will judge whether they are interested in even CONSIDERING your movie based on the title.

Macbeth 3000: This time, it's personal ended up being a great title, because I remember finding random postings online on forums saying "check what i found!" based on the "shock factor" of the title.

I remember picking up a movie called "The Ninth Configuration" (w/ Stacey Keach, FANTASTIC movie BTW) simply because the title sounded cool to me... then I saw it was done by William Peter Blatty and had Stacey Keach and I was sold!

So why don't you refine the hook beyond "escape" and maybe with more detail we'd be able to come up with more relevant titles.

Otherwise you'll get stuff like "Escaping the Killer" or "Killing the Escapers" that probably doesn't make any relevance to the film u wanna make.
 
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Spatula...

Why are you telling me a story buddy? thoug i liked it but i didnt asked for a story (though i am grateful to you for your support) but i asked to guide me about a tag line and a movie name...

By the way recrutigin of the animal's army will be really a tough task cosidering my city in view. :)

OK i have to go right now just an hour i will post more details....infact i will try to post more because it is a sespence story so will have to be careful in selection of words

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OK the story starts with a guy prisoned in a room...after coming in senses he is warned by a killer (whose face is hidden) that he has to escape from this trap (cant tell that trap) with in 1 hour or he will be dead. This prisoned guy tries a lot but at the end dies of that trap. A video of this event is delivered to the senior officer (dave)... and the killer challenges him to find him or he (the killer) will kill Dave. While investigation a girl is killed too . She also faced a the same situation where she was prisoned and had to escape from a (different) trap but she also died. Again a video of this event was send to Dave with the same challenge that find me(the killer) before i kill you. Dave keeps on invetigating. Then 3rd murder also takes place the same way, where a new trap was placed and the 3rd guy also failed to escape.
All the 3 victims were students of criminal physiology and were friends. Dave and his assistant (Shane) starts investigating together. But they were unable to find the murderer. A couple of charachters while investigation were found suspected but at the end when Dave was near to know who is the criminal he was trapped by the killer too.

Hope this is enough Spatula ???
 
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What you have here is fairly cliché... Plus, you don't really give us enough to go on to really lend you a hand...

Why Dave?

Why a game?

Why 3 criminal psychologists or did you really mean physiologists? Never heard of them.

Why students?

Why wasn't Dave's assistant (or is he his partner?) helping him all along? Maybe Shane is the killer and he couldn't assist since he was too busy killing and sending videos?

Having said all that...

What you've got here already sounds like another version of SAW... So how about SEESAW? Okay, you don't like that idea... How about TEETER-TOTTER?

Seriously though, with what you've thrown at us here, you could just about call it anything... LOL.

DO OR DIE
PLAY OR DIE
LIFE OR DEATH
DEATH GAME
ULTIMATUM
GAUNTLET
HOURGLASS
PLAY TIME
PLAY FOR TIME
GAMBLE
GAME OF CHANCE

These are just off the top of my head... Also pretty cliché but in line with what you've given us. Same goes for a tagline...

HE KILLS FOR THE FUN OF IT
DEATH IS JUST A GAME TO HIM
PLAY TO LIVE (hey, another title... LOL)
THE ULTIMATE GAME OF CHANCE

Again, just off the top of my head and again, cliché because that's what you've given us so of course it's going to evoke cliché titles and taglines...

In other words, what I am trying to tell you is to put a lot more work into your concept and as Spat said above, your title and tagline will pretty much write themselves...

Good luck!

filmy
 
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Thanks a lot for reply FilmJumper .... well as you said that what i wrote was cliche. well the whole idea and story is very clear and obvious in my mind but i think i am unable to express it over here because i dont want to tell the whole story or muredrers name, the suspense associated with it . I dont want to write anything here which can give my friends an idea who the killer is or how the story goes on. You can say even after having a clear story i am unable to express the story infront of you so that the secret remains a secret.

or should i be more clear what the problem is at the momment

At the end just want to say that i am very clear with the story but the only thing is i am unable to express it in a best way to you friends because at the momment i am targeting to tell you the story and on the other side i am trying to hide the main story from you guy. So trying 2 completely opposit things at the same times is hard...after all you can hide and reveal things at the same time...

By the way See-Saw is a good name.....
 
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I understand what you're saying but here's the deal... This is a forum and most if not all of us are here to help and remember, if every one of us sat down and tried to write a screenplay and make a film based on specific details you've given us here -- everybody's execution is going to be drastically different.

I think we proved that during the last IndieTalk's competition where everyone made a film based on the winning screenplays... And that is from all the filmmakers using the exact same screenplays.

So... Since you're not even remotely giving us the screenplay to help you with a title and tagline, you might consider coughing up more of your concept. The only way we can help with what you need help on is to give us more information. If you were paying a consultant to help you, trust me... That consultant would want to know everything there is to know about your story ESPECIALLY reading the screenplay.

In other words, we can't help you too much when you don't give us much to work with...

I know there's always the problem of someone taking your concept and running with it but at this point, and please don't take offense at this, your concept just isn't unique enough to worry about that happening... Regardless of what the killer's name is.

filmy
 
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FilmJumper

Thanks for a quick reply. Welli am exactly not afraid of my friends here but you know indie talk is a big site..and we dont know how many people daily visit this site.and the guest can be anyone......so i am just reluctant from those....Apart from that FilmJumper i agree that my idea isnt the worlds most unique idea so i dont mind any comments like that infact it will help me to make my idea more better


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ad2478 said:
Spatula...

Why are you telling me a story buddy? thoug i liked it but i didnt asked for a story (though i am grateful to you for your support) but i asked to guide me about a tag line and a movie name...

By the way recrutigin of the animal's army will be really a tough task cosidering my city in view. :)

OK i have to go right now just an hour i will post more details....infact i will try to post more because it is a sespence story so will have to be careful in selection of words

Regards
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I use stories to get across points. Please, please, please don't attempt to make a movie about a PI who gets trapped inside a cat, because I've already copy-written that idea and am seeking a $10 Billion dollar movie deal to get Henry Winkler in the main role as the cat and Gary Schandler as the murderous detective. LOL

I also use humor as a way of masking my poor forum grammar and lazy writing stylz.

What I was trying to get across is that your outline (and i read the updated plot) isn't very original- you might as well just try and sell it to the SAW people as a sequel. As for coming up with an original title and hook-line, that should come FROM the original feature of your movie... as in, it's "high concept"- the simplest form of your idea boiled down to an easily pictured concept...

Examples: "Armageddon" - you know what this is about, "Godzilla" - again, pretty obvious, "The Sixth Sense" - he sees dead people, or of the more blunt variety- "Harold and Kumar go to Whitecastle"... these titles tell you pretty much EXACTLY what the movie is about. Or in cases like "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" or "The Ninth Configuration" the title IMPLIES the concept in a mysterious way to pique your curiosity.

If you don't have a unique concept behind the film, you might as well just pick one title from Filmy's list, and go with it. But the title is in my opinion the MAKE OR BREAK it for a lot of movies... like when the new Bond film first was announced as "Quantum of Solace", a lot of people thought it was a stupid title- but since it was Bond, they forgave it and saw it's awesomeness anyway. But take "Gigli", which made no relevant sense- forcing the only thing audiences ended up knowing about that movie being the "JLO+Affleck" thing, and that didn't sell very well at the time, LOL... maybe if it were called "Lesbian Hitwoman VS Ben Affleck Hitman" it might have done better.

So it's crucial. Hence the need for all the juicy details.

But my advice, work on the story a bit more first.
 
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Thanks a lot Spatula......i hope you have read the post in which i replied FIlmjumper where i said

At the end just want to say that i am very clear with the story but the only thing is i am unable to express it in a best way to you friends because at the momment i am targeting to tell you the story and on the other side i am trying to hide the main story from you guy. So trying 2 completely opposit things at the same times is hard...after all you can hide and reveal things at the same time...
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so this might be the scene that the story looks old..though i accept the story is not really orignal..but still have interesting things which havent posted... i think the name suggested by FilmJumper SEE-SAW is really attractive and might attract the SAW fans too :D

What do you say? :)
 
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ad2478 said:
Thanks a lot Spatula......i hope you have read the post in which i replied FIlmjumper where i said

so this might be the scene that the story looks old..though i accept the story is not really orignal..but still have interesting things which havent posted... i think the name suggested by FilmJumper SEE-SAW is really attractive and might attract the SAW fans too :D

What do you say? :)
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Unless your film is:

a) a spoof, parody or commentary on the SAW franchise
or
b) the killer in your plot is INSPIRED by watching those movies

then... you'll probably get sued by the people who made SAW, or written-off as a knock-off by consumers.

How about this line of thought:

Your killer is a loner who loves serial killer movies. He goes out and commits crimes mimicking the plots of major horror franchises.... so the baffled cops have to enlist the aid of a jaded Horror-Movie Critic to help catch him! Now, the protagonist- a nobody suddenly turned into a hero- must live the plot lines of the movies he has critiqued in order to stop the killer and save the day!

Now that might be interesting and take on a unique aspect... however you'd then have to get the rights to use footage and references to those movies, methinks. But at least then it'll come off as a "tribute film" as opposed to a low(er) budget rip-off of an existing movie. Think along the lines of Scream for this.

Anyway, that's one idea. The point is to make your movie STAND OUT from the others, not COPY them. Besides, they've already made 4-5 SAW movies, so the genre is getting a bit stale.

PS- OOohhh, if you had a movie with a critic as the protagonist, you can call it "Two Thumbs Down: Permanently" or even better... "Critically Maimed"
 
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Spatula thanks for the reply......dont worry buddy the story is very different from SAW......i just picked the main theme....and converted it in my way so there is no issue of copieng...:D thanks for telling me about the copyright issue..by the way your idea is awesome.......can you please refine this idea little more please???

getting interested in the story....

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