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Starting my first feature screenplay, but need help

Hi,

I'm going to start my first full length feature screenplay, and I need some guidance with that. Up until now, I've studied and wrote only short scripts. As the length of a feature is huge, how do you start with a full feature? What kind of preparations do you do before putting down a single word in the screenwriting software? What kind of research do you do? How do you plan it? You know all that stuff. It would be really helpful if you guide me with this.

Thanks
 
It's exactly how with shorts, you just have 10 times more information in your brain at the same time. One wrong step and suddenly you have 100 times more info in your head to keep track on.
You have a logline?
 
As the length of a feature is huge [...]

Comparatively speaking, maybe. But once you start writing a feature, the generally recommended page-limit of 120 pages seems TOO SHORT by a country mile.

As for all the other questions, let me begin by asking you one. What books have you read on writing feature screenplays?

-Charles
 
@Filmman

Not really a logline, but it's about a psychological disease. I'm still brainstorming.

@Adeimantus

I've Screenwriting for Dummies and The Foundations of screenwriting by Syd Field.
 
Hi,

I'm going to start my first full length feature screenplay, and I need some guidance with that. Up until now, I've studied and wrote only short scripts. As the length of a feature is huge, how do you start with a full feature? What kind of preparations do you do before putting down a single word in the screenwriting software? What kind of research do you do? How do you plan it? You know all that stuff. It would be really helpful if you guide me with this.

Thanks

I would ask you to write the treatment , see if it is saleable and than proceed. That is what I did .
Than you can divide it onto three acts . Try to enact the scene in your mind and write down the scene . Ask your friends for feedback and than polish it.Hope this helps
padma
 
I don't know that I can really help you on how to get there because we all seem to have our own style as to how we go about the task of getting our scripts out of our head. lol However, I did want to drop in and say it's not as hard to fill the pages as you might think...my first screenplay was feature length, and when I started out I got a few pages in and even though I wasn't seeing the end or anything yet I was worried I wouldn't be able to do it...120 seems like sooo many pages, but I blew right through to around 137 pages without even realizing it. lol

I guess I would just suggest thinking about your story mull it over in you head for a while...get to know your main character and the key players...think about what's going on how X (character) will react to y (whatever's going on) based on z (whatever in his or her life has happened or not happened to make them who they are..or maybe they're reactions are based on the fact that their future may not be what they always dreamed?).

I've only worked with drama so far, but if you need any help or need someone to bounce ideas off and maybe bounce a few thoughts back you can always PM me.
 
I recommend Writing Movies by Gotham Writers Workshop. It sets out stepping stones and tasks as you read chapters, making it seem less of a job getting it down on paper.

As for the actual process, a feature script is split into 3 acts. Set yourself a target date to complete each act by, and it will fly by. Believe me, let's say you have your inciting incident and end of act one within the first 25-30 pages, those pages will go by much quicker than you think, because you're setting up the story and introducing characters. The second act is the hardest and longest act to fill in, but it's normally the most interesting act, where the most stuff happens and you can really stretch your creativity. If you don't enjoy writing your 2nd act you probably shouldn't be writing screenplays. Act three should come in at around page 70 but it depends how long your SP is going to be. Act three should tie up any loose ends and have a dramatic conclusion/twist.

Before you write your screenplay, write an outline for your story, and then write up backstories for your main characters. The more important the character is, the more backstory they should have. Once you have an outline for your screenplay, you can choose to begin writing and freestyle events as you go, or you can use the outline to plot out any events before you start writing, so you know what you're aiming for at all times.

As for research, you should write about something you already know alot about for your first screenplay. It should definitely be something you're interested in greatly, otherwise your interest will dwindle as you write, and you will find yourself avoiding writing time. If you want to research before you start writing, because it might be something new to you, just start at the library or on the internet - look for specialist forums or groups where people will be happy to help and share knowledge. You can also go to the location where you picture your script being set, if that will help you get a feel for the place.

One thing to avoid when writing a screenplay is creating "talking heads". Break up scenes with actions and descriptions, rather than setting up the scene and then having a long block of dialogue. Saying that, don't worry about writing bad dialogue, as it's inevitable in your first SP and it will be fixed in re-writing, when you can easily see opportunities for improvements.

My last piece of advice, is to give yourself permission to write badly on the first draft or two. Just bang out the story, take care of the major plot points, major dramatic questions and nailing the characters. Once it's all down you will feel so happy and relieved. Then you start to rewrite, until it's the best you can do. I break up my rewriting into two stages: I go through the whole SP looking at description and action. Then I go through it again looking at dialogue. Rinse and repeat. It makes rewriting much more approachable when it's broken into those elements.

Finally, I don't know if you have any software, but i use movie magic and can recommend it. Hope this helps.
 
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What helps me every time is the "beat sheet" from the book Save The Cat by Blake Snyder
If you can fill in the plot points then you will have a feature length story. Will it be great? Maybe or maybe not, depending on the content. Outlines are just a tool to help you paint your picture. However, I always believe art is expressing you individual feelings. Therefore, the most important element of you screenplay is YOU.

Just a thought.
Best of Luck.

http://www.blakesnyder.com/tools/

THE BLAKE SNYDER BEAT SHEET

PROJECT TITLE:
GENRE:
DATE:

1. Opening Image (1):

2. Theme Stated (5):

3. Set-Up (1-10):

4. Catalyst (12):

5. Debate (12-25):

6. Break into Two (25)

7. B Story (30):

8. Fun and Games (30-55):

9. Midpoint (55):

10. Bad Guys Close In (55-75):

11. All Is Lost (75):

12. Dark Night of the Soul (75-85):

13. Break into Three (85):

14. Finale (85-110):

15. Final Image (110):
 
I say pre-write.

Know the concept, genre, title, logline (even tagline), main characters and arcs, theme and ending up front.
(If you don’t know your story upfront, then you don’t know your story.)

Do multi-part step outlines:

First a brief 1 or 2 line per scene hitting all your marks from start to finish.
(This way it’s easy to keep your head wrapped around things and shift scenes into place.)

Once you have that, use it to make like a 3 or 4 line step outline:
The way you do this 2nd outline can really help you when expanding out into scenes.
(For example, in this outline you might have 1 line of overview that explains just the action that reveals character and story only by what is shown in each scene, 1 line devoted to only what is roughly communicated in text and subtext in that scene, and 1 line (your initial already written line) that details how the scene hits its beats and plays out.)

By working with small bits of dialed in info, you can create tight character revealed through conflict and visual story at a pace, and on track without being overwhelmed. (When you have something tight, you have something tight.)

When its go-time on expanding out into scenes, you can again dial it in by working in smaller sections.
(After adding your slug lines you can take the info from your outline and use it scene to scene to write out just the action -focused only on the visual depiction of revealing character through conflict and action/reaction.

Then same thing off the outline scene to scene spinning your dialogue into life -focused solely on it.


Pre-writing is work, but knowing the story upfront then creating it inch by inch to fulfill itself can be productive work.


-Thanks-
 
Get your first feature out of the way. Once you're done, you should be very proud. I thought mine would change the world. Of course re-reading it now, I can see that it is totally shit with a lone few 'gleaming diamond' scenes buried in there. There's no chance of me selling it or doing anything great with it now, but that doesn't matter. First screenplays really aren't for selling anyways.

Your first few screenplays will yield a LOT of learning for you, and that's exactly what they're best used for. Learn how to write by writing. A lot. Don't delay. You can outline (it's very useful for organization especially), but if you ever find yourself outlining because of a subconscious fear of creating the massive/daunting screenplay itself, my advice is to just jump right in instead. Magic happens on the page. A scene flowing from your practiced fingers is the most enjoyable part of writing. For me anyways.

You'll only get better, and by the time you get to 5 or 6 feature lengths you'll start to feel moderately competent, maybe even confident in your abilities as a writer. Be hard on yourself always. Loving and understanding with yourself always. Get your first feature--your baby--done and out of the way.
 
"but if you ever find yourself outlining because of a subconscious fear of creating the massive/daunting screenplay itself, my advice is to just jump right in instead. "

Agree. The most important thing is to just start, and don't stop or re-write until it's done.
 
What kind of preparations do you do before putting down a single word in the screenwriting software? How do you plan it?

I'm a big advocate of Blake Snyder's Save the Cat method, but I am not too rigid about it. Do a log line, then a beat sheet. Those are just excersizes to get the idea kind of firm in your head. The best thing he had to offer was "the board".

ScriptBoard.jpg


The board looks like the picture above. It's 4 rows of index cards (or something similar). Each scene is a card and there are 8 - 12 cards in a row. The first row is act 1, the next 2 are halves of the second act, and the last is act 3.

The reason I recomend index cards is that you can easily move them around, including taking them on the road with you. It is a really quick and easy way to get and stay organized.

His book save the cat is a quick, and approachable read for getting started.


Also, I painted a whole wall in my house with chalk board paint so I can have my board and huge amounts of notes available on hand at a glance at all times. This may be exceesive, but it works, looks really cool, and keeps me from closing my screenwriting software to access notes.
 
I don't find Synder very helpful in coming up with a story from scratch. It's more like a checklist to ponder over at a later stage (and reject parts thereof at will).

I come up with major developments, major scenes, major turning points, major life changes for characters first. They need to be compelling, new and original. Without that spark, there isn't much point arranging checklists.

What's new?
What does it mean?
What's cinematic about it?
Why would people be engrossed in these events?

Everything else comes later.
 
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