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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/219806136/i-creator-2-goddess-of-the-hunt

Now on kickstarter. Please help spread the word so this goal can be reached.

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I've got you started ;)

I'll send out a tweet about the project but, and this is especially true with Kickstarter rather than IGG, you need to spend the next month promoting this project like crazy if you're going to reach that goal...
 
Thank you Nick.

I appreciate your help and support. The money will help buy badly needed equipment, costumes for the cast, and absorb overages like going over budget with the casting already.

Mike
 
Thanks Steve.

If you would be so kind as to pass the word to people you know, I'd appreciate it. We really need the money for equipment and costumes that can give the new production a good facelift over the old one.

Mike
 
To hell with Kickstarter. My backup funding came through. Kickstarter is the only loser. They don't get their percentage.

Never go into a production without a backup plan.

I also have good news. With the cast whole, I got a volume discount on costumes for the productions. So, the cast will end up with 2 copies of their costumes each.

I now have all the raw material for making a prototype breakaway battleaxe. I'll put one together when time allows.
 
I'm sorry about the strong words. But, kickstarter is not a place to go for funding for productions with mainstream stories and plots. They only cater to arthouse projects.



The most undocumented story in the world is the struggles for independent filmmakers to secure funding and cast around flakes.
 
I'm sorry about the strong words. But, kickstarter is not a place to go for funding for productions with mainstream stories and plots. They only cater to arthouse projects.

Do you have any basis for this?

I've seen plenty of projects with "Mainstream" storylines gain funding.

The "To hell with Kickstarter" which you've already apologized for, was unjust, and i'm glad you realised that.

If i'm being completely honest, and I say this with the utmost respect for what you're doing. I think you took "Crowdfunding" lightly, you didn't do what was necessary. Which is alot of work, and this is the result.

I'm stoked the back-up plan came through with you. I just want to be sure that those who read this- especially the inexperienced- are aware of the circumstance, and read this within context.
 
I'm with Paper Twin.

It has nothing to do with mainstream or not, because we hit our goal and we're doing one of THE most mainstream no-budget projects conceivable. It's about presentation, prolificism, and sticking to it.

We raised over 17,500 on Kickstarter (which equated to about 15K after kickstarter's cut), and we started with a bad video to begin with.
 
I've got to agree with PTP.

I've seen plenty of films with 'mainstream' ideas and plots get funding through Kickstarter.

I've got to question your campaign. I see your posts here on IT, I follow you on Twitter and am friends with you on Facebook. I saw very little campaigning.

It should also be noted that I run a film website, a film podcast and have a film based Twitter account with 650+ followers. You never sent me an email asking whether I could help promote your campaign, so I assume that you didn't ask anyone else either.

Because I was one of the two people who funded your campaign I also received your 'Campaign Updates' which were basically urging me to invest. Clearly this is the sort of thing that you should have been promoting on places like IT, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and sending to websites/newspapers/community film clubs rather than sending to the only two people who had invested in your film.

As always I hope you realise that I (and I presume everyone else at IT) is here to help and that if I were to criticise your work it's only so that you don't totally lose faith in Kickstarter but adjust the way you go about it in the future.

That said- I'm glad your backup funding plan has worked out and you didn't need Kickstarter after all. I hope you take some of the lessons learnt through the Kickstarter failure and apply them to marketing your film once it's made.
 
I know of more that failed than succeeded who dotted all their "i"s and crossed all their "t"s. My friend who was looking for $5K minimum only gathered $200 with one week left. So, she cancelled her project to move to her plan B for funding. She has been doing research on crowd funding and came up with those results.

I received notice, because I am one of her backers. So, I contacted her upon receiving the notification.

My real source for funding awaits at NATPE for the feature our short is fund raising for. That is where we will show great footage. One of my new actresses Googled NATPE because she never heard of them before. She was amazed with what she found with how much they can mean to everyone in a production. A good film can further everyone's career.
 
Honestly, it's about presentation and taste when it comes to crowdfunding. If you're not presenting yourself as a sale, or your taste isn't in line with a majority, then it's likely to not go well.

There are many many examples on Kickstarter of people grabbing thousands from crowd-funding, mimic or come close to those.
 
I know of more that failed than succeeded who dotted all their "i"s and crossed all their "t"s. My friend who was looking for $5K minimum only gathered $200 with one week left. So, she cancelled her project to move to her plan B for funding. She has been doing research on crowd funding and came up with those results.

I received notice, because I am one of her backers. So, I contacted her upon receiving the notification.

Can we see your friends pitch? I remember asking for a link on a previous thread, but I don't think you gave us one. Also, if there are any links to the podcasts, interviews, newspaper articles, blogs.

I don't mean to be persistent. But still, I don't think you fully grasp the marathon of a successful campaign. Using your friends unsuccessful campaign as a yardstick is not a valid point. We haven't seen it. There are thousands of successful campaigns, as there are unsuccessful. I would say that 99% of those unsuccessful have the same mentality towards the scheme, too.
 
I'm on my phone here. I cannot copy and paste links like on a computer. I don't think it is wise to post her link in public anyway.

I did ask everyone to pass the word for the campaign here and everywhere else. So Nick, thanks for your pledge. As far as I know, no one besides myself posted anywhere. I got one additional support besides Nick from Fembot Central, only because I posted there. I TWITTERED my link and no one forwarded it.

I read your Tweets too on TWITTER.

Kickstarter never promoted for my like they do with their pets. So, when time permits, I'm closing my account with them.

Once again, NATPE is the place to show a good short for funding, not crowd funding sites. NATPE is where all the deep pocket professionals go.

Nuff time wasted with kickstarter. I'm in preproduction for a science fiction action addventure short. That speaks for all of my time on an Indy level production. If I had a real fan base, crowd funding might work. It's not for unknows with mainstream ideas.
 
I seen one chick got 14'000 to go on holiday basically lol, it's pretty dumb some of the stuff people give money to. I'm trying indiegogo, it seems pretty random there too. some crap has funding and some awesome stuff has none. sometimes it's not what you know but who you know.
 
Kickstarter never promoted for my like they do with their pets. So, when time permits, I'm closing my account with them.

They promote the projects that move up the ladder. Once we got our 10K exec pledge, I emailed Kickstarter crew and let them know, then the next day it was up on the front page of Kickstarter.

Make it happen.

It's not for unknows with mainstream ideas.

This is so very far from the truth... I hope anyone reading this, interested in Kickstarter, doesn't take it to heart...
 
That's your job. It's all very well and good asking people to "Retweet" or spread the word. But that's not the entire leg work. You have to spread the word. You have to put it infront of as many eyes as you could. But you didn't. It was never going to work.

Rash accusations about the merit of Kickstarter isn't the right thing to do. Investors do check up on these things. If your campaign was still running, and you were making ground, these are the type of things they check. They check your twitter, forums posts, all of this. They promote you. They have to make sure you are a proper professional to promote, and most of all, a good representative.

People invest in you, not your ideas.

If you where doing all you could with your campaign, people would have followed. People aren't born with followings. They make them.

Be it we are unable to judge for ourselves, the campaign of your friends that you say was hard done by, I don't think this conversation can go any further. It's just a differ of opinion.

I just hope onlookers don't scan the thread, and see "Kickstarter is a waste of time". This isn't true.

Kickstarter is alot of work. But, if researched, if done properly, if given 100%, it's a brilliant method. I'd encourage people who are going to take it seriously, to do it.
 
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