Million Women March

As per IT rules, I'm not allowed to get political here, but I do think that I'm allowed to say that if you're a documentarian of any sorts, you might wanna get your ass to our nation's capitol on January 21st, cuz shit's about to get real.
 

sfoster

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I'm only 40 minutes from DC but IDK.

I hate driving in the capital on NORMAL days.
Can't imagine trying to get into and out of town with such a large gathering.

It sounds like a nightmare.



Moderator APB: this thread is only for discussing the film making aspects of the march.
Any opinions about women protesting or their roles in society will be considered political in nature and result in an infraction. Lets keep it on topic. We are an indie film board.
 
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I know a group here in Pittsburgh who are planning a bike trip to the protest. It's about a 5 day trip (335 miles), and given the weather in January, could be a pretty rough trek. I appreciate the commitment and dedication of these women (the bike scene around here is pretty crazy) and I'm sure there are a ton of similar stories around the country right now that would make for good documentaries. If anyone is thinking of shooting something, don't wait until January, check out your local politically active scenes now!
 
Moderator APB: this thread is only for discussing the film making aspects of the march.
Any opinions about women protesting or their roles in society will be considered political in nature and result in an infraction. Lets keep it on topic. We are an indie film board.
Huh?

I understand that discussion of politics is banned on this board, and rightly so, but the idea that discussing 'women protesting or their roles in society' constitutes something fractious or political is crazy. I'm glad you deleted the very misogynistic posts (and hopefully the poster was banned) but we should be encouraging discussions about how to get more women involved in film and filmmaking, and what part we, as a film community, can play in the equality movement. Simply banning discussion of the women's 'roles in society' is the wrong way to go about this – are you also banning discussion of men's roles in society? If so, that's going to wipe out almost any discussion about film history!

This forum clearly has a problem with too few women posting. I think it was a good step to remove the hateful comments that were posted on here, but we don't encourage women to join this board if we forbid discussion of female participation, both in society in general and on this board.
 
I know a group here in Pittsburgh who are planning a bike trip to the protest. It's about a 5 day trip (335 miles), and given the weather in January, could be a pretty rough trek. I appreciate the commitment and dedication of these women (the bike scene around here is pretty crazy) and I'm sure there are a ton of similar stories around the country right now that would make for good documentaries. If anyone is thinking of shooting something, don't wait until January, check out your local politically active scenes now!
This sounds like it could work brilliantly. Someone needs to hook them up with a bunch of GoPros and get a documentarian to do a ridealong and you've got the basic footage for a great piece.
 
This sounds like it could work brilliantly. Someone needs to hook them up with a bunch of GoPros and get a documentarian to do a ridealong and you've got the basic footage for a great piece.
The Gopro idea is perfect! Shoot interviews and prep here in Pittsburgh, and again down in DC, cut with Gopro footage from the road (whatever they feel comfortable with). I just sent the woman fronting this an email. I know another woman who does documentaries, to direct and edit, so if they are interested, I'll connect them to make it happen. Another person I know runs a group for local women in music, so the soundtrack would be a breeze too! I hope they're interested; it's a great story (though not my story to tell, but I'll do my part in helping connect people)
 
The Gopro idea is perfect! Shoot interviews and prep here in Pittsburgh, and again down in DC, cut with Gopro footage from the road (whatever they feel comfortable with). I just sent the woman fronting this an email. I know another woman who does documentaries, to direct and edit, so if they are interested, I'll connect them to make it happen. Another person I know runs a group for local women in music, so the soundtrack would be a breeze too! I hope they're interested; it's a great story (though not my story to tell, but I'll do my part in helping connect people)
This sounds great and I think you're doing good work organising it. Also that's a really important note for all people considering this sort of documentary work.

Make sure you aren't taking the stories out of the hands of the people who should be telling them. There are more passionate women documentarians than could ever really justify appropriating their stories.
 

mlesemann

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Originally posted by Nick Clapper:
I'm glad you deleted the very misogynistic posts (and hopefully the poster was banned) but we should be encouraging discussions about how to get more women involved in film and filmmaking, and what part we, as a film community, can play in the equality movement.
Nick - agreed and fyi the posts that triggered the deletions were (very) racist and not the misogynistic one. I'm one of the (relatively) few active women on this board and would really like to see more women here. It requires a fairly thick skin, however. That's not necessarily a bad thing - the same is true about filmmaking in general - but in a world where we all need to pick our battles, I'm not sure that this one is a priority for most of the women filmmakers who I know.
 

sfoster

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Huh?

I understand that discussion of politics is banned on this board, and rightly so, but the idea that discussing 'women protesting or their roles in society' constitutes something fractious or political is crazy. I'm glad you deleted the very misogynistic posts (and hopefully the poster was banned) but we should be encouraging discussions about how to get more women involved in film and filmmaking, and what part we, as a film community, can play in the equality movement. Simply banning discussion of the women's 'roles in society' is the wrong way to go about this – are you also banning discussion of men's roles in society? If so, that's going to wipe out almost any discussion about film history!

This forum clearly has a problem with too few women posting. I think it was a good step to remove the hateful comments that were posted on here, but we don't encourage women to join this board if we forbid discussion of female participation, both in society in general and on this board.
Anything that relates to film making or film history in any way is okay to discuss, even if it's tangential. If you want to talk about how to get more women involved in film making go for it!!

In this thread specifically - not across the whole board - but just in the context of this thread, if you are stating jokes or opinions that marginalize women, saying they only belong in the kitchen or something, then you're undermining the impact of this protest and therefore it's a political statement you're making. Does that make sense?

Basically I just wanted to say lets keep this thread on track because it was going in a really bad direction. If you don't think women should have the right to protest, or you think they should protest because of who our president is, etc, this isn't the board for those discussions. I hope that's clearer and agreeable.
 
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I'm glad you deleted the very misogynistic posts (and hopefully the poster was banned) but we should be encouraging discussions about how to get more women involved in film and filmmaking, and what part we, as a film community, can play in the equality movement. Simply banning discussion of the women's 'roles in society' is the wrong way to go about this – are you also banning discussion of men's roles in society? If so, that's going to wipe out almost any discussion about film history!

This forum clearly has a problem with too few women posting. I think it was a good step to remove the hateful comments that were posted on here, but we don't encourage women to join this board if we forbid discussion of female participation, both in society in general and on this board.
Nick - agreed and fyi the posts that triggered the deletions were (very) racist and not the misogynistic one. I'm one of the (relatively) few active women on this board and would really like to see more women here.
Preach on, both of you! My current project is designed specifically for the purpose of increasing diversity in filmmaking. Many of my closest friends belong to members of marginalized groups of society who have traditionally been left out of filmmaking. They're angry right now, and I don't see this movement dying down any time soon.

And that provides a great opportunity for filmmakers to get their journalism on! Like this guy! :D
 
Update:

When I first posted this, I knew nothing of what I'd be doing at the (renamed) Women's March on Washington. All I knew was that I was definitely going and I'd be bringing my camera.

My plans have developed, are solidifying, and I've got some good friends nearby who are taking part. For this particular project, the more the merrier.

If any filmmaker is planning on or considering attending the March, I can use all the collaborators I can get. The video has a specific purpose, which I'm not really allowed to discuss here because of forum rules, but you can probably surmise my intent by looking at my avatar. PM me if you'd like to take part.
 
The Gopro idea is perfect! Shoot interviews and prep here in Pittsburgh, and again down in DC, cut with Gopro footage from the road (whatever they feel comfortable with). I just sent the woman fronting this an email. I know another woman who does documentaries, to direct and edit, so if they are interested, I'll connect them to make it happen. Another person I know runs a group for local women in music, so the soundtrack would be a breeze too! I hope they're interested; it's a great story (though not my story to tell, but I'll do my part in helping connect people)
I once saw a short documentary about a filmstudent biking from Holland to the Italian Coast (through the Alpes). It took him weeks. He mainly used gopros. One facing him, one facing the road. Speaking his mind to the camera.
It worked really well: you could see the hard times he went through. His emotions, his thoughts, his struggle.
It made it pretty intense.
The cycling became a metafor for his internal struggle and his determination.

The 5 days of cycling through rough weather or heavy landscapes could be used in a similar fashion: not just a way to bond emotionally with the viewer or to show determination, but as a metaphor for the ungoing struggle of women around the world. This will elevate the documentary from being a reportage to a journey for both the subjects as the viewer.
 
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