If You Were To Remake Batman

fernando97echeverria said:
Unless all the posts in this thread are sarcastic, I've lost hope in the judgement of most indietalkers.
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The question posed was "If You Were To Remake Batman... "
We had the silly Adam West version followed by the silly Tim Burton / Joel Schumacher series followed by the "gritty" Christopher Nolan series.

So, what do you want from the intellectual property that ISN'T a bunch of white guys running around doing the same old soap opera drama or gritty drama?
I'd welcome a "move on" from the current fare.
Got no problem with Batman as a comedy, as a bunch of non-whities (that's me, BTW), or as a musical.

Can't say 21 JUMP STREET was a flop remaking a 80's drama as a comedy.
SHAUN OF THE DEAD becomes JUAN OF THE DEAD. Good stuff there.
CHICAGO and SWEENY TODD aren't exactly OKLAHOMA and WEST SIDE STORY.

Change is good.
REAL change. :yes:


CONVERSATION ENDER: Would a Batman comedy/ethnic/musical make a buck? Yes. Done.
 
rayw said:
The question posed was "If You Were To Remake Batman... "
We had the silly Adam West version followed by the silly Tim Burton / Joel Schumacher series followed by the "gritty" Christopher Nolan series.

So, what do you want from the intellectual property that ISN'T a bunch of white guys running around doing the same old soap opera drama or gritty drama?
I'd welcome a "move on" from the current fare.
Got no problem with Batman as a comedy, as a bunch of non-whities (that's me, BTW), or as a musical.

Can't say 21 JUMP STREET was a flop remaking a 80's drama as a comedy.
SHAUN OF THE DEAD becomes JUAN OF THE DEAD. Good stuff there.
CHICAGO and SWEENY TODD aren't exactly OKLAHOMA and WEST SIDE STORY.

Change is good.
REAL change. :yes:


CONVERSATION ENDER: Would a Batman comedy/ethnic/musical make a buck? Yes. Done.
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Agreed. Variety is the spice of life, no? Could you imagine what a Trey Parker/Matt Stone Batman musical would be like? I'd give a left nut to see that. Not mine, mind you, but that would still be a lot of effort on my part.

Annnnnnnd, now I realize that you were not being facetious. I hope my incorrect assumption did not offend. :)

The only reason I thought so was because 3 out of 4 of your picks were rapper-turned-actors. Of those three, in my opinion, Mos Def is the only one who can act. Cube has shown glimpses of talent, most especially in Barbershop, but wow, he sure does take a whole lot of crappy roles.
 
Cracker Funk said:
Annnnnnnd, now I realize that you were not being facetious. I hope my incorrect assumption did not offend. :)
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PFFT!! SH!T, NO!
I can't remember when the last time I was offended by anyone about anything.

"Facetious" may be a hair strong, but I'll certainly go with "provocative" or "intriguing." ;)


Yeah, I was trying to be casting-budget conscious, so no Denzel or Morgan. (Is JEJ even still alive?)
Tyler Perry is both done-to-death + not even the right writer/director/producer for the job. Pass.

Now, your rec of Chiwetel Ejiofor is spot on. He might be pushing the age bracket a little, but... And he also might not have the sass I had envisioned. He seems a bit serious himself.

I think Ice Cube can switch character personas back and forth between Bruce & BM perfect.
Mos Def can so the near-age-to-the-boss subservient thing on the nose.
Cheadle... h3ll, can you pick a better commissioner? No. H3ll, I'd vote for him.
And Ice T is just one mean and scary looking MFer.

Nah, I'm not being COMPLETELY brainless about this diversion. I take my screwin' off seriously. :yes::lol:



A Trey Parker/Matt Stone Batman musical would be effing hilarious!!!
Someone should float the suggestion across their desk.
 
:lol: This is a funny/fun thread. Lots of interesting choices.

I'd like to like Ryan Gosling as Bruce/Batman, but somehow doesn't seem quite right to me.

Jon Hamm could be interesting.

I think Michael Fassbender could be very interesting as Bruce/Batman.

Commisioner Gordon?:
Harvey Keitel (Is he still working?), Bill Murray, Nathan Fillion (Not sure he's right for the role, but would like to see him in more cool stuff), Antonio Banderas, James Woods, Whoopi Goldberg (um, maybe something like Jaimie Gordon), (and on that note) Viola Davis (of course she's great in The Help, but I think her performance in Solaris (2002) is mind-blowingly stellar), Danny Huston (outstanding character actor), Val Kilmer, Sam Neill, David Morse (Love this guy, would love to see him in this role...if it was meaty and worthy of him), ...okay, I'll stop.

Alfred:
Alan Rickman, Ian Mckellen, Max Von Sydow, Bill Nighy, ...so many other possibilities.

If it were my film, what I would not do is bring back the camp. Generally, I despise camp. To Hell with camp.

I'd probably want to keep Nolan's dark, gritty crime melodrama tone but turn up the scifi or fantasy just a touch, maybe just a notch or two...still trying to keep it fairly grounded in realism...or at least a version of realism. Maybe a little more magical realism.

Of course, such exceptional talent would in turn demand an exceptional screenplay.
 
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I would have Adam West play Batman again... only in my version, Batman begins his superhero career in high school and his romantic love interest would be Miley Cyrus or that weird girl who made the "It's Friday!" song
 
The fact that he's an old man in high school will call for some suspension of disbelief from the audience.... unless anyone can explain it within the plot.
 
Yep Ray, Darth Mufasa, at the ripe old age of 81, is not just alive but still acting! :)

And yeah, I was definitely going for the "gritty" version of Batman, when I cast Ejiofor.

Richy, interesting choices. Fassbender? Yes!

Here's a new variation (this would obviously be in the campy category) -- the all-over-acting-Batman:

Nick Cage as Batman
Robin Williams as Alfred
William Shatner as The Riddler
Jack Black as The Joker
Helena Bonham Carter as Talia al Ghul
Parker Posey as Catwoman
Steve Buscemi as Lucius Fox
Sam Jackson as Commissioner Gordon
Christopher Walken as Rhas al Ghul
Al Pacino as Harvey Dent

(BTW -- those are some of my favorites; I don't intend "over-acting" to be used as an insult. Their performances are fun.)
 
In all honesty, Robin Williams should be allowed to play a villain. He's auditioned for every movie since he lost to Nicholson
 
Cracker Funk said:
Here's a new variation (this would obviously be in the campy category) -- the all-over-acting-Batman:

Nick Cage as Batman
Robin Williams as Alfred
William Shatner as The Riddler
Jack Black as The Joker
Helena Bonham Carter as Talia al Ghul
Parker Posey as Catwoman
Steve Buscemi as Lucius Fox
Sam Jackson as Commissioner Gordon
Christopher Walken as Rhas al Ghul
Al Pacino as Harvey Dent

(BTW -- those are some of my favorites; I don't intend "over-acting" to be used as an insult. Their performances are fun.)
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I said I hate camp, but... :lol: I would love to and I would pay to see that.

Oh, another actor I think I'd love to cast as Gordon would be Peter Stormare. I don't think we see anywhere near enough of him, anyway. I think he could make a great Commissionar Gordan to, say, Michael Fassbender's Bruce/Batman. =)
 
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id rather see Gerard butler as batman, but a futuristic batman, hes got that rawness of the scots, and i tend to think british actors play tough character alot better than american ones... biased but my personal opinion
 
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