No. I saw it once in the theater (IMAX 3D) and that's 3 hours stolen from my life I'll never get back. If only they really had that butterfly effect technology to wipe the memory from my brain forever.
How did Avatar make so much money?
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No. I saw it once in the theater (IMAX 3D) and that's 3 hours stolen from my life I'll never get back. If only they really had that butterfly effect technology to wipe the memory from my brain forever.
Not a misunderstanding, we have opposing points of view. A "Sound Designer" makes all of the decisions regarding to overall sonic mood to work with visuals. For live theatre and for the major silent film houses one person made all of the decisions about which devices to employ and when to use them to create the desired sonic mood. They chose specific devices, etc. for specific reasons and gave instructions, and in the case of live events scripts to follow, to all of those who would be performing the sounds at the proper times.
Try talking to some theatre types and convincing them they aren't sound designers.
This is not true, they were not few in number. In any case, you miss the point. If there is 1 silent movie where the sound effects and music is created this way, then the definition stands regardless of whether they can be mixed or not.
Just because they did not use mixing facilities, et al, that does not mean that they cannot be regarded as sound design. What you are arguing about is applying a definition from the point at which was created rather than looking at the concept of how sound is used to tell story, and in many instances substituting for dialogue.
Anyway, I'm leaving you to your opinion.
Everything you said.
I'm going to check out your work today, is any of it on iTunes?
I suddenly remember in high school the girls were discussing Titanic with the female teacher during Economy class.
So my 'analyses' from a few days earlier about the romance in the story may be correct?
(It was 'the' one thing that set Avatar apart from other listed movies from Ray's lists...)
Now I think about it (and this just a thought, speculation):
women hardly go to cinemas alone.
They take their friends or boyfriend with them.
Men also prefer to go with company, but sometimes go alone anyway.
Could it be that succesfully targeting women yields a larger average 'pack of visitors'?
Are there lists comparing 'blockbusters', 'girly blockbusters' and 'boyish blockbusters'?
Yes, much like children are targeted, as they usually are accompanied by a parent - or the whole family.
Not according to your definition of sound design, which included the mixing. But regardless, I'm afraid it is you who is missing the point. The creation of sound FX, where there were any (probably no more than a percent or two of worldwide cinemas), was done by the cinemas themselves depending on the resources they had available. See the same film in two different cinemas and the sound would likely have been completely different because sound was not part of the filmmaking process. There was no film sound design because there was no film sound, this simple fact is surely not so difficult to understand?
No problem. You find me a theatre sound designer from the 1910s or 1920s and I'll be more than happy to explain and show them how film sound design has changed out of all recognition in the last 100 years.
I'm sorry, but this is just blatantly untrue! We are obviously used to working on very different projects. On all the professional projects I've worked on or even heard about, the sound designer definitely does not make all the decisions on sonic mood, it is always a collaboration with the director and usually with the producer and/or the picture editor as well. And comparing the creation of sonic mood in the average cinema in the silent era to what is possible now is like comparing the wright brothers first aircraft with the most cutting edge modern jet fighter!
In fact, with the possible exception of some forms of VFX, I can't think of any area of filmmaking which has changed more from the silent era than sound design. What's more, James Cameron is an expert in film sound design, he actually does most of the guide sound himself and integrates sound design in the film making process from the outset. Christopher Boyes started working with James Cameron on the sound design of Avatar in 2006. Taking one of the most advanced examples of film sound design (both artistically and technically) ever created and comparing it with an era of film making when sound design was not even part of the film making process, is beyond comprehension. If you want to compare modern film sound with the silent era, at least pick a vaguely reasonable example like "the Artist", not a film which is as far removed from the silent era it's possible to find!
If you and Boxt wish to ignore or deny a 100 years of evolution in the art and craft of film sound design, that is of course your prerogative and you're entitled to your opinion. Likewise, I'm entitled to my opinion, that your opinion flies in the the face of the facts and is completely bizarre.
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You guys are making me feel like Brick Tamlin. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8
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The success to Avatar, at least in Japan, appears to be an astounding volume of 'indirect communication' via blogging (NOT advertising) AFTER the film's release.
However, note the 'direct communication' advertising costs (red line) spiking up what looks like fifteen days before and until the film's release, spiking on all three weekends.
Source: http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/14/6/063018/article
Source of the source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120615103702.htm
Excellent scrounger who found the source of the source: http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?p=275047#post275047
However, note the 'direct communication' advertising costs (red line) spiking up what looks like fifteen days before and until the film's release, spiking on all three weekends.
Source: http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/14/6/063018/article
Source of the source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120615103702.htm
Excellent scrounger who found the source of the source: http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?p=275047#post275047
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