All I see on kickstarter or Indiegogo are fundraising for webseries that are based off other people's ideas like famous videogames and comic books. So far I've seen Nuka Cola (Fallout) Nightwing (DC comics) Supermario warfare (nintendo, infinity ward) Halflife webseries (valve) and theres WAY more. How are these people not being sued? Theyre getting over $50,000 for something that they didnt even come up with which is the most important part. These guys are the failures of film making, if you cant come up with an original idea, and have to resort to using someone elses idea you should just give up.
How are these people allowed to make money off of video games and comic books?
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I think the issue is more about the infringement of intellectual property they don't have rights to than about recycling.
Who cares?
More fool the people who pay money to these "filmmakers" when the chances of their product ever being made, let alone being distributed (even just on YouTube) are slim-to-non.
It's a shame for people's money to be wasted in such a way, but don't worry, if the copyright holder doesn't want the film made or shown, it won't be.
More fool the people who pay money to these "filmmakers" when the chances of their product ever being made, let alone being distributed (even just on YouTube) are slim-to-non.
It's a shame for people's money to be wasted in such a way, but don't worry, if the copyright holder doesn't want the film made or shown, it won't be.
Fan Films ARE good for biz. Smart companies who live in the digital world, like video game makers get it, stodgy brand paranoid corporations don't.
Do you think Valve cares that someone raises $50K to make a movie based a game that is currently free to play\own? There is 0 risk to them, with potential revenue payoffs in free advertizing and buzz generation. Video Game Brands are as much about the intangibles, fashion, coolness, hipness, etc then they are about products.
Do you think Valve cares that someone raises $50K to make a movie based a game that is currently free to play\own? There is 0 risk to them, with potential revenue payoffs in free advertizing and buzz generation. Video Game Brands are as much about the intangibles, fashion, coolness, hipness, etc then they are about products.
The 'failures of film making'? I guess it depends on how you define failure. Personally I'd say they may be exactly the opposite, at least from a truly indie standpoint - because coming up with an original idea isn't much use if nobody knows about it.
Now I'm not familiar with all the projects you've mentioned, but I am familiar with the crew behind Mario Warfare. They're actually a crew of stunt people and action filmmakers who are trying to make better action films than hollywood makes. They've made one original feature film, and had a second one planned which looked like it had a lot of potential - but they lacked the resources to do it properly, and they weren't happy with their experience dealing with traditional distributors on the first film.
In the meantime they made some humorous action shorts based on popular game characters for practice and it got them a lot of views on youtube - so they've focused on producing those as a series to build their audience for the past year or two.
Now they've got a channel with 180,000 subscribers and videos that get millions of views. I have no doubt they'll end up making the original feature film they were planning to make in another year or two - and release it to a ready and waiting audience of eager fans without having to pursue a traditional distribution deal. If that's failure, we should all hope to be so unsuccessful...
IDK.
This looks pretty darn cool to me: http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?t=46925
I think the filmmaker learned a lot, probably strengthened some relationships, and vetted some processes.
I couldn't sensibly lump him among "... the failures of film making" and that he "... should just give up."
And if he can get someone else to pay for his lunch - more power to him.
This looks pretty darn cool to me: http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?t=46925
I think the filmmaker learned a lot, probably strengthened some relationships, and vetted some processes.
I couldn't sensibly lump him among "... the failures of film making" and that he "... should just give up."
And if he can get someone else to pay for his lunch - more power to him.
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You have a fictional characters name as your own username...
So do I but it doesn't matter, nothing is original anymore. Every story you will ever read is a copy of other stories. There are no new plots. These people are taking something familiar and common and putting their spin or twist on it, generally as a way to MAKE the product, not MAKE MONEY from it. They are looking for enough money to cover the costs of everything, read their entire description.
There are millions of fan made stories and art based on almost everything in pop culture, why doesn't every artist or writer get sued for something they made for fun, based on their interpretation of the source material.
I disagree with this perspective.
Genrés, settings, and stock characters may be recycled, but some films are very inventive and are not "Die Hard on a _____" copies of other film plots.
As I look over last years top films none of them have strong arguments that their plots are not new.
http://www.the-numbers.com/market/2012/top-grossing-movies
I've seen 80-90% of these.
Which are rehash plots? Title = Copy of?
Plots aside, that's an interesting list in light of the larger discussion - how many of those aren't based on an existing property? 3, maybe 4? Essentially, Hollywood is in the business of making fan films now too.
Wow, you know you're right.
Very few of those are first works, and almost all are continuations of a series or extensions of pre-existing materials.
Nice spot!
However, I'll still argue the plots are fairly new and not rehashes, which is what I'd label Hollywood shot-for-shot Americanized remakes of foreign films, (a practice I despise.)
i knew someone was going to say this, am i trying to make money off it?