Documentary filming question

The situation does seem to boil down to "people with connections have better connections", which does royally suck when you are starting out. In film, in music, in literature, etc. But that doesn't mean it's not an interesting story. Maybe if it was focused less on the specific crappy things the organization does, and more on the frustrations and experiences of a small filmmaker.

Make a film. Try to go this route with funding, and document everything. Record your experiences and every one of a thousand roadbumps you meet on the way. Investigate how the government film funding works, but relate it to something else you are doing. I think that would make it a more interesting story and something a lot of people can relate to. Spending $500 to attend a festival to meet people might seem like a lot, but $500 to try to get funding for project A while gaining material for project B might seem like a better investment. And I'm sure you'll find a lot more people willing to talk to you/be filmed by you if you say that you are documenting your experiences, rather than investigating why they don't give you money!
 
Begin here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telefilm_Canada
Goto here: http://www.telefilm.gc.ca/en/funds-...development-production-and-marketing-programs

http://www.telefilm.gc.ca/en/telefilm/telefilm/history

http://www.telefilm.gc.ca/document/en/01/17/2009-2010-Corporate-Plan-ENG.pdf
Total Canada Feature Film Fund ............................................................... $ 93,160[,000]

I see that it is a "Crown Corporation", among many others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_corporations_of_Canada

Term to become familiar with: Canada Development Investment Corporation (CDIC)
http://www.cdiccei.ca/english/pdf/CDIC_Annual_Report_2008 _Eng.pdf

Go get in trouble TI! ;)

Pretty good Ray :). You don't understand how familiar I am with these sites. It seemed so promising in the beginning too, when I first started researching. As you go through the process though, you realize that these people don't really want to help you. I'd tell you more stories, but I don't know how to make them exciting without writing an essay.

Yes, I do plan to get in trouble :), but not right now. I dont' mind shooting this a little bit at a time. Hopefully at some point I'll have something that I can collate together, that may be of interest to Canadian filmmakers at least.
best,
Aveek
 
Make a film. Try to go this route with funding, and document everything. Record your experiences and every one of a thousand roadbumps you meet on the way.

This is one of the ways I am thinking of doing it. But the logistics of it means I just have to plan it out a bit since somebody would have to be following me around. But I think it's one of the best ways to make it interesting.

And I'm sure you'll find a lot more people willing to talk to you/be filmed by you if you say that you are documenting your experiences, rather than investigating why they don't give you money!

This is something I really hadn't thought about. This sounds like a really good technique. In fact I think it's just brilliant. Not only does it seem completely innocuous, I think making such a request, makes people even want to help you. At least it would make me want to help someone if they came to me with such a request.

Awesome. Thanks.
Aveek
 
I'd love access to the 15 million pounds available in the UK BUT in order to do so there are many hoops to jump through first. I know it's not just a case of talking to someone over drinks into giving me cash without all the necessary forms etc. IF it were a private investor - absolutely yes I'd give it a go...

But govt. money, I don't think so.

This is why it seems having government funds available is not such
a good system. Please understand that I know only one system and
have no actual experience with government funded movies so my
comments come only from talking to filmmakers in the UK and Canada.

I don't even think about 15 million pounds being available from the
US government because it isn't there. I only have private investors.
And private investors never ask me if I have tried going through the
government funds. I understand the frustration you guys face - the
government should be egalitarian in its distribution of the funds. there
is no such expectation with private investors.

I think a documentary on how the governments in the UK and Canada
actually distribute the funds would be very interesting to those of us in
the US. trueindie, when you figure out how to tell the stories in an
entertaining way you may find your documentary.

Jamster, let me ask you about this:
in the UK to get govt film funding you need a 'recognized' producer attached as they want to make sure of an end product.
How does one become a "recognized" producer in the UK?
 
Jamster, let me ask you about this:

How does one become a "recognized" producer in the UK?

Jamster, I got a question for you too. I met up with a struggling producer here in Toronto. Even though he is struggling financially, he does have some good work under his belt and has been involved in recognizable films here in Canada. I'd like it very much to be able to work with him.

How should I approach him so he does't think I'm wasting his time? He doesn't have money of his own and is financially struggling, but has been involved in high budget productions here in Canada. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy. I've been waiting to get in touch with him until I had something good that he would be interested in. Now I'm thinking that I should just talk to him and get to know him better whether I have any projects going or not. Would you be interested in talking to somebody like me who doesnt really have much to show? What is it in an indie director that interests you before you decide to give him/her your time?

Thanks,
Aveek
 
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