Dissecting movies -- Signs

Where is it written that you can't believe in the possibility of both? I'm one of those people, but I've had more than one UFO sighting, including a black hat saucer in broad daylight, while hiking in the Arizona desert. Daylight sighting man! It zipped about 100' off the ground and was silent, except for a high pitched buzz. Of course, when I got to my grandfather's house and told him, he said, "You watch too many movies." Now, it could have been some Air Force secret craft, but this was in the 70's, quite a bit before the Stealths were made. My other sighting was a glowing disc at dusk, while living in the same area. I'll never forget it in my life.

I'm a person of faith as well. And you're right - there's no rule against throwing UFOs in the mix. But what Blake said under the "Double Mumbo Jumbo" section of Save The Cat really made sense to me. ie. asking the audience to believe quite a bit in one movie.

(He also talked about a similar deal in Spiderman... where we're asked to accept that a teenager gets bitten by a spider and becomes a superhero, and right down the road a guy is simultaneously turning into a supervillian. Huge coincidence. HOWEVER, that's based on a comic book, so it can get away with it. Ha.)

Secondly... what you experienced in the Arizona desert was wild, man. That stuff gives me the chills. ;)
 
I'm a person of faith as well. And you're right - there's no rule against throwing UFOs in the mix. But what Blake said under the "Double Mumbo Jumbo" section of Save The Cat really made sense to me. ie. asking the audience to believe quite a bit in one movie.

Interesting. That makes sense. The Double Mumbo-Jumbo doesn't really happen, until the end of the movie, though. Leading up to the end, the only "mumbo jumbo" we're asked to believe is that Earth is being attacked by a bunch of aliens. The part about Mel having lost his faith isn't any kind of mumbo-jumbo at all. The 2nd mumbo-jumbo comes at the finale,
when we learn that his wife has been watching over them, the entire time, and that either God or some kind of gaurdian angel had her deliver this message, before her death, that would ultimately save them.

Yeah, I can see how that would bug a bunch of people. Don't know why, but it didn't bug me.
 
I like your idea, Cracker.

I'm in the love it camp. I mean, I think in terms of Signs, we can put Shyamalan in the genius category, right up there with Tarantino's best work (Kill Bill) and others. It's on my favorites list.

Some users have pointed out a religious aspect to it. I agree. It does give me some pause whenever I watch it or think about it. I'm a more-or-less a militant atheist, whatever that means. I pretty much despise spiritualism and superstition, but I'm generally fond of it in film. It's just another kind of fantasy, and I like fantasy. But you know what, it don't stop me lovin' it. What's lovely about that part of Signs is it does not really hit you over the head with it...in any kind of evangelical or holy roller fashion.

And I don't think I agree that it necessarily asks us to believe that the wife/mother is actively watching over them. I think that that's a possible part of the story. But I think all we need entertain is the idea that she had a premonition-ish of what was to come. Actually, I don't think she had to be conscious of any of it. The story is about "signs." Or maybe it's something like synchronicity. I also suppose that it's more about (a) God being conscious of it, orchestrating it all. So, this God did not inflict the son with asthma because He is cruel or indifferent, which would be the logical conclusion. No, this God gave it to him in order to ultimately protect him from the alien's poison. Anyway. Strangely, even though on principle I'm hostile to the assertion, I find it heartwarming because everything sort of turns out well, thanks to the magic of the movies.

I watched it recently, and I still think the home video reveal of the alien/man in a suit is fully convincing and brilliant! I still love it. I don't get people who knock it. The later CGI alien? Yeah, it hardly bothers me. What do you do? That was the state of CGI. I find that it is just fine as it was, or is. Should he DO A LUCAS and insert some 2011 CGI for it? Eh, dunno. Like the Pixar People say: it's story, story, story! The story required a face-to-face smack-down with an alien. It's right for the story. That's what they could do. Would Weta do a better alien for Shyamalan today? Maybe. But let's face it. Did any of us have any trouble seeing and understanding that Gollum was a CGI construct? My point is, could that alien in Signs -ever- seem real enough? I think it's fine as it is. It's called suspension of disbelief. Use it.

I love, love, love the slow, bucolic atmosphere and build up mixed with the suspense of the film. That is one of the film's major characters. I very much doubt that Shyamalan wrote from his experience growing up on or running such a Midwestern farm, and yet he wrote it so brilliantly. Wow. It keeps me coming back. You know, am I the only one who romantically imagines living on and working that farm in small town America? In Romantic Fantasy Land, it seems pretty idyllic.

Referring back to the religious cast of the story, I have to praise Mel's performance for that dark night of the soul bit when they're sitting on the couch and he's explaining the two kinds of people. That man can be a damn good actor. He really hits it. Despite his well known personal faith, one gets the clear sense that he's been there, or at least that he can put himself there hypothetically.

The water thing. It does bothers me. It always bothers me. It's hardly original to this story. For example, remember Alien Nation? I was a very poor chemistry student. Is there a chemist here or anyone who was a good chemistry student? I would love for you to explain how it is entirely plausible for there to be a life form for whom water would be like acid. You know, it hardly matters, though, because I'm still only going to be very stubborn about it. The -only- example of life that we know of requires water. It's a basic. I'm sure I'll always call baloney whenever a storyteller tells a story in which water is acid. Still, if water wasn't acid in Signs, then there wouldn't be the payoff at the end when it's revealed why the daughter was leaving glasses of water all around the house. Hey, on some dramatic level it pays off and it's satisfying. For that, I can forgive its implausibility.

Another shout-out. I love, love, love the silhouette of the cross that once hung on Mel's wall. It's less tarnished than the rest of the wall. It's a wonderful visual cue. That little touch right there is enough reason to grab the man (Shyamalan) and give him a big kiss on the...cheek for being so brilliant and dramatically subtle...and potent. What a great visual...and not just a visual, but it's a visceral visual and very right for the story.

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Oh, I wanted also to mention the family story in my review. It's like City Slickers. Even if you're having trouble finding meaning in the world, there's family. What's more important than family? Well, family can be pretty important and meaningful, anyway. So, Signs has that very nice family story.
 
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What's more important than family? Well, family can be pretty important and meaningful, anyway. So, Signs has that very nice family story.

I love the part when Mel grabs everyone at the table for a group hug. :yes: I really like your post, richy.



what Blake said under the "Double Mumbo Jumbo" section of Save The Cat really made sense to me. ie. asking the audience to believe quite a bit in one movie.

(He also talked about a similar deal in Spiderman... where we're asked to accept that a teenager gets bitten by a spider and becomes a superhero, and right down the road a guy is simultaneously turning into a supervillian. Huge coincidence.

Ah, I see what you are saying. I think that SIGNS uses a family's situation as a backdrop to the alien invasion, as opposed to clashing events.

SPIDERMAN (which ironically came out the same summer as SIGNS - I saw Spidey once and SIGNS twice, which surprised me) actually bothered me for the very reason you state....and SPIDERMAN 3 took it way too far having "Quadruple Mumbo Jumbo!" :lol: (Spidey Venom, regular Venom, Sandman and Son of Green Goblin, plus the jealous girl!) On the other hand, I really liked SPIDERMAN 2, as Spidey was already established before Doc Ock came along.
 
Michael Semanick is a genius mixer. He helped add the fear into this movie through the sound. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and it was one of MNS's last great movies.

I love the score and the really screechy fiddle. I think the fiddle in the score added a lot to the eerieness.

And yes, the home-video of the birthday was the "jumpiest" part for me.
 
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