anyone else getting tired of remakes?

More and more often it seems that hollywood can make nothing but remakes. Nightmare on Elm Street (remake) was in my opinion terrible, and some of the movies they're remaking now, don't really even NEED to be remade.
I mean, come on!
Scarface?
Total Recall?
The Evil Dead?
The Wizard of Oz?
Robocop?
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HOLLYWOOD?!?
 
As long as people pay to see it, someone will remake it 100x. It's smart business. You have a proven great story, throw $50-100 million at it to produce it with some A-Listers, double that for advertising and make $700 million+ in Ticket sales/DVD revenue/merchandising etc.

Not every remake is terrible either. A fresh perspective on an old story can be a lot of fun, or seeing the futuristic world of Total Recall recreated with modern VFX and camera technology could be sweet. In 2045 they'll remake it again and it will probably look even better.

It is sad to say, as new generations come most of them will never see the older original versions.
 
They are remaking Hellraiser.....
Now this is one of my favs but i do think 2 is better.
Now i do see that some of the effects an the way it was shot is not holding up well. So i am excited to see this remake. But i have been let down big time like The Fog. Most of the time remakes suk! But there are a few that would look good with todays tech. Robocop might be interesting...its just with all the hack directors out there still using the shacky cam technuqe it makes it diffcult for me to like any modern movie.
 
First and foremost, NO I do not like remakes and sequels that much, especially the tired nonsense and completely unnecessary remakes on the way.

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HOLLYWOOD?!?

Here's what's going on. The entire film and television industry is feeling financial pains from the loss of revenue all the way around. That means they have to spend more money on fewer films to make a profit.

That means taking less risks on unknown properties and scripts. As bankers, meaning they are good with math, you have a LOWER risk of LOSING your MONEY ($) on remaking a known hit movie or TV series. Even if people hate it, the property has a built in market that will at least SAMPLE the new product, which means they are less likely to lose their money on the gamble.

Like it or not, these remakes and sequels rarely ever lose as much money as the completely new stories.

As I say often, this is the "business" half of the "movie business"...

I do not buy or rent a movie that I don't have the slightest interest in seeing.
 
I say if they don't make it better, don't mess with it.

For example: The Lion King was re- released in 3D
I took my kids to see it, and they loved it.

But when you take a movie like Scarface, add new actors
and change the script here and there, It sucks before you
even release it.
 
More to say on this later, but Scarface? It IS a remake. Example number one of how remakes are not always a bad thing.
 
Yes. I'm more than tired of remakes.

I'm just wondering why they don't do the same with books, or music, or artwork. Any form of art. Why don't they hire someone to remake all the Beatles songs? Or Johnny Cash songs? Their work is screaming for remakes. And maybe they could hire someone to paint a new Mona Lisa? Or rewrite all the beloved classics. While we're doing that, how about remaking the bible? Bring that thing up to date, ya know? Make it hip. Give a new spin. Make it more accessible to new readers. In fact, forget the bible as a book, make it an online, multi-player video game. Like World of Warcraft. I mean, if we're just concerned with making money ... let's make some damn money. Ya know?
 
Funnily enough, there are still a few movies completely taboo for remaking (at least direct remakes)...

CITIZEN KANE
GONE WITH THE WIND
CASABLANCA

Rumor has it someone got fired at Warner Brothers in the 1990's for SUGGESTING a remake of Casablanca...
 
It's not like they get remade every two or three years.

On the one hand I enjoy seeing different approaches to a single premise.
On the other hand after ten or so years the memory of the original has somewhat faded in my mental junkyard so I'm game for a new one, anyway.

Nah, I really don't care.
Remake away... !
 
So then: remakes. (josh's longwinded rant #5673)

I'll preface by saying I will, every single time, rather see a new and original story than a remake. Rare is the remake that I love (or even enjoy), but I do watch a fair few, in the interest of trying to keep an open mind and give everything a shot. When I was younger, I used to HATE the very idea of remakes. I'd throw phrases around like "ruining my favorite movie" and such. But that movie isn't ruined...it's still right on my shelf. Likewise any book to film adaptation.

Storytelling and entertainment has been a part of our culture since the beginning of time. Forms change, but the basic concept doesn't. The role that film plays in our lives was played by theatre 200 years ago (and before that, and to this day, etc). Theatre was an extension of people sitting around the fire trading stories (many of the folk tales that we know today, changed as time changes everything). There are theatres still doing Shakespeare productions, and what HE did was rewrite a lot of popular stories of the day. Can we say "no one should ever stage Hamlet again"? Can we even say "no one should ever FILM Hamlet again"?

Even in that, most productions miss the point. Shakespeare was't striving for high art; he was telling stories in the language of the day (albeit brilliantly) using symbols and motifs that meant something to the audience he was trying to reach. How many Shakespeare productions are set in different times, but preserve the language? Sort of digressing here, but my point is this: sometimes stories need, or maybe just deserve translating into the modern pop cultural lexicon. If a movie made in the 70s talks about Led Zepplin, it DOESN'T mean the same thing to you today as it did to the audiences in the 70s. Time changes everything, and nuance is sometimes important.

In the Star Trek reboot, there's a scene where young Kirk steals a car and plays a Beastie Boys song. The car, to 2009 audiences, was clearly a classic car. The song was a good 15 years old, from our perspective. From Kirk's perspective, they're BOTH relics from hundreds of years ago, but the choice of something older, but that most people would recognize (rather than something from 2009) puts the audience in the exact right frame of mind. Anything older, and people might not recognize it. In 10 years time, that scene will NOT mean the same thing to people watching it for the first time. In 50 years, why not remake it so it means something to the audiences of 2061? If the story is important, it should stay around, and not all tellings are "timeless" (though some certainly are).

Maybe the problem is most remakes are done by studio hacks. People who care about the art of storytelling rarely do remakes, because they have their own stories to tell. Perhaps if people started making better remakes, they wouldn't have the same connotation that they do today.

Again, Scarface was a remake, exactly the sort I'm talking about. Taking a 30's gangster movie, and transporting it to the 70's. Wizard of Oz? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000875/ Not the first film with that name on this list (actually, that new film? A prequel directed by Sam Raimi? Sign me up!) Does any film need a remake? Probably not, doubly so for crappy horror films, which I do love. The Hellraiser remake does sort of make me sad...they had Clive Barker on board, read his treatment and said "no thanks". Oh well...what could have been...

Music is a good comparison...people remake songs ALL THE TIME. Hell, I've done covers myself. Check the programs for your local symphony for the past 5 years. 90% of the time they're playing the same 10-15 pieces. Over. And over. And over. But I could, off the top of my head, name at least 15 cover songs that I enjoyed more than the originals. There is, and always has been a place for this sort of thing in our culture, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But let's put that back in the hands of the artists.
 
More and more often it seems that hollywood can make nothing but remakes. Nightmare on Elm Street (remake) was in my opinion terrible, and some of the movies they're remaking now, don't really even NEED to be remade.
I mean, come on!
Scarface?
Total Recall?
The Evil Dead?
The Wizard of Oz?
Robocop?
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HOLLYWOOD?!?

You don't know?

They all have a track record of making money. That is what motivates their investors to invest, not art or originality.

MOVIE MAKING IS A BUSINESS. MATERIAL WITH A TRACK RECORD OF MAKING MONEY IS EQUITY TO INVEST IN.
 
I, for one, am not. Certain movies are not to be remade, obviously, but is always nice to see a fresh take on a classic story. I mean, as long as they don't butcher it. Think about it, most of this generation, would not even get into Robocop, if it wasn't remade. At least, if they respect the story, more people will know it.
Also, I said I'm not tired of remakes, I'm tired of SHITTY remakes.
PD: Have they not learnt not to fuck with Tony Montana?
 
I said I'm not tired of remakes, I'm tired of SHITTY remakes.
I agree with this. To me certain movies should not be remade because they were perfect the first time around. I can see the greed of Hollywood to remake them though. If they are going to remake them at least do a good job.

I am worried about this new spiderman remake reboot thing. I really like the last spiderman 1 and 2. I don't think reboot this soon made sense. The one thing good is Dennis Leary is in the reboot. So I am keeping my fingers crossed that they at least do a good job with this film. I still probably will prefer the Tobey Maguire spiderman.

I was worried when they started to reboot batman and made it darker because I liked the 80s batman movies. But I was wrong about this one. Batman Begins and Dark Night was awsome. Especially Dark Night.

I am not so sure about the reboot of superman. This time the suit is looking pretty bad. They are making it a darker version of superman and it is about how he becomes superman from what I heard. I just don't see that being better than Smallville. Hopefully they can at least do a decent job because I thought Superman Returns was not so good.

The new X-Men first class did a pretty good job. I was not too excited about it because it did not have the original cast but they did a good job with it. I liked the movie.

I am dissapointed they are doing a reboot of Fantastic Four.

I was dissapointed in the last Punisher movie called War Zone. Matter of fact to be honest I never watched it because I was a big fan of the Thomas Jane version.
 
I did enojoy the 'reboot' of Predator (Predators) but I saw the remake of Nightmare on Elm Street and left the theatre VERY dissappointed. Not just because of the fact I wasted my money, but also that it seemed to have NO imagination. I mean, COME ON! With limitless possibilities of what could happen in a dream, they keep alot of the same dream sequences in (although I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but the way they executed them were in my opinion SHIT).
 
Funnily enough, there are still a few movies completely taboo for remaking (at least direct remakes)...

CITIZEN KANE
GONE WITH THE WIND
CASABLANCA

Rumor has it someone got fired at Warner Brothers in the 1990's for SUGGESTING a remake of Casablanca...

Funnily enough, Casablanca has been remade (or reinterpreted) and has both prequels and sequels.

Caboblanco (1980): Casablanca in South America with Charles Bronson

Havana (1990): Casablanca in Cuba with Redford

From Wikipedia (which also mentions novel, stage, and radio sequels or adaptations):

There have been two short-lived television series based upon Casablanca, both considered prequels. The first aired from 1955 to 1956, with Charles McGraw as Rick and Marcel Dalio, who played Emil the croupier in the movie, as Renault; it aired on ABC as part of the wheel series Warner Bros. Presents. It produced a total of ten hour-long episodes. Another, briefly broadcast on NBC in 1983, starred David Soul as Rick, Ray Liotta as Sacha, and Scatman Crothers as a somewhat elderly Sam. A total of five hour-long episodes were produced.​

But my favorite (not!) is the ultra-trashy, beat-for-beat remake, Barb Wire, starring Pam "Silicone Valley" Anderson.

Fortunately, no straight-up period-piece remake of the film has yet showed up -- but isn't it just a matter of time?
 
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