A tricky scene. Help?

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Sinfire

Konbanwa, guys!
So I'm about to start filming a movie trailer for my media course and I was thinking as to how I will do a certain scene. Imagine this. A teenager is looking into the distance, standing on a bridge, thinking about the horrible things he has done in his short life. Looks very dramatic, blah blah blah. So I'd like to add this effect when he, the teenager, is in normal speed, but the people passing by are in fast forward. This would kind of create an impression that he was standing there for a long time. Any suggestions? I was thinking about using a green screen. First film the mise-en-scene, then the actor against the green screen, and then merge the two shots together and edit the the green out from the shot.
Arigatou in advance!
 
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Sinfire said:
Konbanwa, guys!
So I'm about to start filming a movie trailer for my media course and I was thinking as to how I will do a certain scene. Imagine this. A teenager is looking into the distance, standing on a bridge, thinking about the horrible things he has done in his short life. Looks very dramatic, blah blah blah. So I'd like to add this effect when he, the teenager, is in normal speed, but the people passing by are in fast forward. This would kind of create an impression that he was standing there for a long time. Any suggestions? I was thinking about using a green screen. First film the mise-en-scene, then the actor against the green screen, and then merge the two shots together and edit the the green out from the shot.
Arigatou in advance!
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You have it figured out in my opinion
 
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Then an alternate method is the old fashioned way. I've done it
and it takes time and patience but the results are amazing.

Shoot the actor standing on the bridge for a long period of time.
Have him stand in one spot and if he moves, have him move very,
very slowly. Maybe 45 minutes, maybe even an hour. Then speed
up the film in post production.

I did this for a music video about 10 years ago. The lead singer was
walking along the bridge. We timed it out and he spend one entire
hour walking very, very slowly across the bridge. It looks like he is
in regular time and everything else is speeding past him.

Time consuming (and we got the timing off so had to do it a second
time) but we didn't have a greenscreen either.
 
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directorik said:
Then an alternate method is the old fashioned way. I've done it
and it takes time and patience but the results are amazing.

Shoot the actor standing on the bridge for a long period of time.
Have him stand in one spot and if he moves, have him move very,
very slowly. Maybe 45 minutes, maybe even an hour. Then speed
up the film in post production.

I did this for a music video about 10 years ago. The lead singer was
walking along the bridge. We timed it out and he spend one entire
hour walking very, very slowly across the bridge. It looks like he is
in regular time and everything else is speeding past him.

Time consuming (and we got the timing off so had to do it a second
time) but we didn't have a greenscreen either.
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That's awesome. I'm gonna try that.
 
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some green fabric, some pvc pipe and duct tape, $20 (gaff tape will nearly double your budget!) and your good for a small 4X8 green screen.

You do all the shooting on location, no green screen studio magic.

Set up the camera on sticks, position your actor, slide the green screen in behind him.
Film your ACTOR staying mostly still, maybe looking around etc.. time sequence.

Now, remove actor and green screen, dont touch the camera just let it roll..

key and composite ...
 
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wheatgrinder said:
some green fabric, some pvc pipe and duct tape, $20 (gaff tape will nearly double your budget!) and your good for a small 4X8 green screen.

You do all the shooting on location, no green screen studio magic.

Set up the camera on sticks, position your actor, slide the green screen in behind him.
Film your ACTOR staying mostly still, maybe looking around etc.. time sequence.

Now, remove actor and green screen, dont touch the camera just let it roll..

key and composite ...
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Thanks for the advice! However, I'm afraid that even 20$ for me is too much at the moment. I'll do it the old fashioned way.
 
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this might be long... but ... there are a few methods you can do this using timelapse... and just get your actor to lean with his elbows on the edge of the bridge... in a way that he can comfortably stay there for about 10 to 30 minutes... depending on how long you need the scene to be...

now... the first way to do this is simple...

alot of new cameras have this great feature were they will do as slow as 2 frames a second... its a built in feature in the jvc's http://everio.jvc.com/2010lineup/feature/demo_video/index.html#/Time-Lapse_REC i am sure there is some sort of feature in other cameras that allow for this same thing... i havent used mine yet... because i do all of my timelapse the hard way \/\/\/


the hard (hahahaha) way to do this is ... if you got a digital camera... ie one that can take action shots (multiple shots in a row) set it up for 2 second delay and action shot... and this will give you a constant shot every 2 seconds...

or do what i have had to do before... and push the button with a metronome in my ear at 1 second intervals...

basically your just creating a timelapse video of the people moving extremely fast while the one guy is sitting still... and you can time it out... if it takes your guy 10 seconds to walk across the bridge... then at 24 frames a second... times ten seconds... it should take him 240 seconds/pictures to move across the bridge... while everyone else would be flying across the bridge... and if you had the right lighting... ie later in the day or at night depending on the street lights... you can do this with a blur effect on the people moving normal speed... it creates a really nice effect...

then you just take each picture and pit it in the timeline of your editing software at only 1 or 2 fram intervals... and boom... you got your self a nice timelapse shot with your charactor sitting still... or walking normal and everyone else is moving much faster...crap... we should do this for the next wheat grinder hahahahahahah
 
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licenseless said:
this might be long... but ... there are a few methods you can do this using timelapse... and just get your actor to lean with his elbows on the edge of the bridge... in a way that he can comfortably stay there for about 10 to 30 minutes... depending on how long you need the scene to be...
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That's exactly what I did. Except I didn't want the actor just
standing in the shot. Which is why I had him walk across the
bridge for one hour. Since I didn't have a time-lapse feature
on the camera we had to roll for the entire hour.

We timed it out in advance and found the performer could walk
the length of the bridge in three and a half minutes - exactly the
length of the song. So in post we sped up the footage to last three
and a half minutes.
 
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directorik said:
That's exactly what I did. Except I didn't want the actor just
standing in the shot. Which is why I had him walk across the
bridge for one hour. Since I didn't have a time-lapse feature
on the camera we had to roll for the entire hour.

We timed it out in advance and found the performer could walk
the length of the bridge in three and a half minutes - exactly the
length of the song. So in post we sped up the footage to last three
and a half minutes.
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i think thats probably the most realistic way to do it... its like stopmotion meats real life... i like that method best directorik
 
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