if your budget is 5000.00 can you get a great song for cheap?
Does music license prices go down per the budget of film?`
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I don't think labels will bring down their price because of your budget. They will try and get as much money as they can.
Instead, look for independent composers through youtube & soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/jonathan-mitchell-18
Instead, look for independent composers through youtube & soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/jonathan-mitchell-18
What he said. Also, if you want to keep local/regional, reverbnation has a much better search functionality (my least favorite part of soundcloud). If you had a specific song in mind, find an indie that has a similar song/sound/style/etc, or find a composer who can write something similar. This is often a free or cheap solution!
I"m not sure. I've heard different. Have you guys looked? I find alot of people settle. some things arent replaceable
I worked on an indie feature for which the total budget was about $85,000. They still wanted $100,000 plus points for the use of "The Middle" by Jimmy Eats World.
On a short project the director wanted to use a traditional song interpretation by a well known third world band; they wanted $15,000. We found an indie band that had a very similar version; we got it for free and a "big" credit - all of the band members names and their website in addition to the usual music credits.
On a short project the director wanted to use a traditional song interpretation by a well known third world band; they wanted $15,000. We found an indie band that had a very similar version; we got it for free and a "big" credit - all of the band members names and their website in addition to the usual music credits.
but i spoke to tons of people saying you still need the recording rights . Its still someone elses song
As independent filmmakers, it is imperative that we help expose independent music. I for one am burnt out on that Macklemore song that is now everywhere - including a recent movie trailer I've seen.
Now on the other side, I've written scripts with specific mainstream music in mind. Since the pieces that I have chosen are characters within the script and vital to the feel, I don't think those scripts will ever be produced without a "real" budget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxQm-U5HVg
The artist here let me use the song for free. I just asked nicely and credited them
Now on the other side, I've written scripts with specific mainstream music in mind. Since the pieces that I have chosen are characters within the script and vital to the feel, I don't think those scripts will ever be produced without a "real" budget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxQm-U5HVg
The artist here let me use the song for free. I just asked nicely and credited them
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As independent filmmakers, it is imperative that we help expose independent music. I for one am burnt out on that Macklemore song that is now everywhere - including a recent movie trailer I've seen.
Now on the other side, I've written scripts with specific mainstream music in mind. Since the pieces that I have chosen are characters within the script and vital to the feel, I don't think those scripts will ever be produced without a "real" budget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxQm-U5HVg
The artist here let me use the song for free. I just asked nicely and credited them
what about a cover of the song you need. what if im' a singer with a studio. can i record the songs and just use them?
You still need to contact the copyright owner and pay license fees.
http://www.ascap.com/music-career/articles-advice/film-tv/how-to-acquire-music-for-films.aspx
In such a case, you would still need the Synchronisation License, but you could grant yourself your own Master Use License (as it would be you singing it) for free.
yes thats it thanks
As independent filmmakers, it is imperative that we help expose independent music. I for one am burnt out on that Macklemore song that is now everywhere - including a recent movie trailer I've seen.
Now on the other side, I've written scripts with specific mainstream music in mind. Since the pieces that I have chosen are characters within the script and vital to the feel, I don't think those scripts will ever be produced without a "real" budget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxQm-U5HVg
The artist here let me use the song for free. I just asked nicely and credited them
i dont think it that important. independent music is usually just that for a reason. its as bad as new music these days. Point is i should nt have to pay 200 000 for a 20 yr old song ort 100 000 to record it myself. they might as well say fuck of f. most films dont even have budgets like mine. not many productions are paying for this. so no one gets paid
the issue is they are millionnaires 10 times over and don't care..
it's why a song from the 1970s still costs a dollar on itunes
you are wrong about independent music being just as bad as new music... there are 1000s of diamonds in the rough... you just have to be willing to put in the work to find them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzmFdez7A8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVcmf1ld2LI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AlIILsWkcw
You both are not thinking about the "economy" of having to take care of business - and the music industry and the film industry are both businesses. You feel that it's an unfair price just because you can't afford it. Have any of you used an attorney or a specialist like an entertainment attorney? They cost $100's per hour. (And yes, I agree, most lawyers are bloodsuckers.) There is going to be thousands in lawyers fees to set up the licenses, and the owner of the copyright has to pay someone to verify that the song is used in keeping with the agreement, and to keep track of the royalties situation, etc., etc., etc. Plus, if they are asking that kind of money, people are still paying that kind of money. So it is not financially advantageous to deal with low/no/mini/micro budget film types.
Now put the shoe on the other foot - you've written and produced a hit song/movie; wouldn't you want to wring every cent out of it that you could? You put all your talent and your entire heart and soul into it. You toured endlessly to promote it. Don't you deserve the financial benefits of all of your hard work and passion? How would you feel about people using the results of your passion and toil and then not fairly compensating you?
Now put the shoe on the other foot - you've written and produced a hit song/movie; wouldn't you want to wring every cent out of it that you could? You put all your talent and your entire heart and soul into it. You toured endlessly to promote it. Don't you deserve the financial benefits of all of your hard work and passion? How would you feel about people using the results of your passion and toil and then not fairly compensating you?
Don't act like the artist make any real money from these deals....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCqr-ki5js
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCqr-ki5js
That's their stupidity for going to a bunk label that doesn't take care of their artists.
Also that has nothing to do with using an artists music in film.
EMI is a bunk label?
Got a fair share of friends at all levels of the music biz and this happens EVERYWHERE.
And is a completely relevant response to the person I was addressing, thank you
If they're smart, they do. The fact that this particular band didn't read their contract, or feel that they are being mistreated, or that royalties are being withheld, or whatever, is a very old story in the music biz. I played in a very well known '50's band for a number of years, and those guys - and many '60's artists - all had their horror stories, and the desire to make it big led many even in the '70's and '80's to sign contracts without reading them or without proper legal representation - despite the numerous warnings.
BTW, I was in a band that turned down several seemingly nice deals; then when our attorney read the legal fine print we found out just how deeply they were trying to ram it up our rear. That's the reason my audio post biz is cash on delivery; those "we'll pay you when we get distribution" deals never pan out, because even if the project does get distribution you can be sure that, no matter how well the film does, the money will never get to the cast and crew. I mean, c'mon, we all know the story of how "Forrest Gump" and many other films still haven't made a profit....
To be blunt, your attitude is childish; the world won't conform to your wishes. You want something, you can't have it, so you're pissed off. Whether you like it or not, that's the way things are. If it ticks you off so much why don't you go out and change it instead of whining about it?
I'm a professional musician i know all about it. But an artist doenst suck blood and i dont want new songs.
Better question. why worry about music at all? i can afford festival prices. which is the showcase for distribution and production companies. if they like your film they will pay for the music. If your film is crap you dont have to worry about it anyway unless you paid for the right upfront for no one to see it
In the first place, festivals that have distributors attending (there's only a handful of them) are not going to be selecting a film with an obviously stolen pop song in it.
Look at it this way, if pop music was cheap, we'd ALL be using them.
It ain't gonna happen.
