editing The Steps/Process: Color Correction, Effects, Sound

Hey Everyone,

So I have a couple fairly specific questions regarding the order in which to do things while editing. Below I'll outline them and share what I have been doing. I would love to hear what you all do in these situations, or what I should change.

Color correction - Where does it fall in the post-production process? Say you have a 10 minute short - Do you edit the short together, and then bring that 10 minute clip into a program like Adobe Speedgrade and go through the film and correct it as it goes?
Or do you correct each shot, or each scene, or whatever, individually, and then edit them together after they are graded? What goes first?

Special effects - So I've been learning how to do some intermediate effects in After Effects I've been utilizing in my recent productions. Now, After Effects doesn't seem to do well with large clips, so in this case, what I've been doing is pulling in specific scenes (after editing them and exporting them out of my editing software separately) and adding my effects, then exporting them out and replacing the new scene w/ effects where the old scene w/o them was on my effects timeline. Then, they are a part of my export from my editing software.

Additional sound effects + music - I've noticed in my recent productions that by the time I've edited together all of my scenes, synced my audio in, added titles or effects or whatever is necessary in, etc, etc - My editing software is pretty jam packed. So, I export the films like that, and then make a new file where I add the sound effects and music. Good or bad process?


Now, lots of times people post here trying to get the easy way out of things. Even I've done it before, and believe me, you all set me straight! So, I'm not asking that here - I'd like to know what you all think is the best way of doing things.
Obviously I'd love for the process of all of this to be a bit more streamlined... it gets a bit crazy with Premiere editing files, After Effects effect files, Audition sound files, and Speedgrade color correction files. I don't really know if this is good or not. I know that easy and best are mutually exclusive, but streamlined and best aren't.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
You want to have some sort of locked edit (whether it's the whole picture or just a scene), and then you send the footage/scenes over to the VFX house to do the VFX work. Once that's done, you can master in an online, do the final colour grade and drop in the final audio mix.

Colour is one of the last things you do.
 
it gets a bit crazy with Premiere editing files, After Effects effect files, Audition sound files, and Speedgrade color correction files. I don't really know if this is good or not. I know that easy and best are mutually exclusive, but streamlined and best aren't.
The reason it "gets a bit crazy" is you're doing the work of several people. :)
 
Technically grading/coloring ought to be last. But sometimes with a lot of mix matched clips you might want to fix a few things before you start nesting and things, but when in doubt, do it last.
 
Take your footage
Edit your footage
LOCK YOUR CUT
some combination of VFX/Color depending on workflow simultaneously with the audio nerds.

Yeah, you may have to do it all yourself, but dont stress where you have to do it. Do things however you are comfortable and can execute your idea best.
 
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