RED Scarlets for $7,000!!

DeJager

DeJager

Here ya go boils and ghouls! (Halloween lingo haha)

RED is offering a discount of a lifetime on their Scarlets. $7,000!

They had a company rent out a ton of them for a project and now they can't sell them as new so they are discounting them like crazy. You can't snatch up a better 4K camera for this price.

$7K RED Scarlet
 
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Well, it kinda brings the cost of being up and running with a Scarlet to ~$13,000 - so if you were planning on buying one, you're certainly saving a bit, but unless you plan(ned) to spend $13k, you're only going to get a box with a lens mount.
 
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jax_rox said:
Well, it kinda brings the cost of being up and running with a Scarlet to ~$13,000 - so if you were planning on buying one, you're certainly saving a bit, but unless you plan(ned) to spend $13k, you're only going to get a box with a lens mount.
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And that's just with a few lenses, maybe a couple bricks, and one or two of their flash storage units. Beyond that you'd need to make sure that your post-production equipment can handle the RedRAW 4k footage, which would pretty much require an investment into a decent Quadro card, possibly an additional investment into the very poorly named "Red Rocket" video card, a system with a very fast 4-6 core processor, a dock to offload footage, lots of digital storage space, and at least 24-32gb of RAM. All that would probably cost minimum $5k (probably more). You'll probably need a mobile workstation to offload footage on, as well, which would be another couple grand

This discount makes it more comparably priced to the Sony fs700, which it needed to do to stay competitive, but preparing for a RED workflow will still take around $20k instead of the $25k that it would before.
 
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Caidh Mor said:
And that's just with a few lenses, maybe a couple bricks, and one or two of their flash storage units.
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Not even. The ~$13,000 price is assuming you're keeping your lenses, Follow Focus, rails, base plate etc. from your DSLR rig.
That covers the 5" monitor (that is essential if you want to actually be able to work the thing), 2 Bricks w/charger and mounting plate for the camera, 2 64GB cards (allowing you ~20 minutes of capture dependant on frame rate, compression, resolution etc.) w/card reader.
And that's it. That's your super-basic setup that is the absolute essentials you need to actually make the camera work.
That doesn't include lenses, no rails, no dovetail, no baseplate, no tripod, no lenses, no matte box, no Red Rocket for processing raw files, handle etc. etc. and everything else you'd want/need to make this actually work for production purposes.

This discount makes it more comparably priced to the Sony fs700, which it needed to do to stay competitive, but preparing for a RED workflow will still take around $20k instead of the $25k that it would before.
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It brings the cost of your body down by ~$2,000, but anyone who thought they were going to get a Scarlet for $9,000 was kidding themselves anyway.
 
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It still is saving you thousands of dollars. I'm not sure why you're being so negative about it. It's a great little camera for the price. Most people know that they will have to invest more than the cost of the body but if an individual can save a couple thousand dollars in the process then that is a win-win.


I also tend to forget that seemingly everybody here is anti-RED for some reason with the exception of a few individuals.
 
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jax_rox said:
Not even. The ~$13,000 price is assuming you're keeping your lenses, Follow Focus, rails, base plate etc. from your DSLR rig.
That covers the 5" monitor (that is essential if you want to actually be able to work the thing), 2 Bricks w/charger and mounting plate for the camera, 2 64GB cards (allowing you ~20 minutes of capture dependant on frame rate, compression, resolution etc.) w/card reader.
And that's it. That's your super-basic setup that is the absolute essentials you need to actually make the camera work.
That doesn't include lenses, no rails, no dovetail, no baseplate, no tripod, no lenses, no matte box, no Red Rocket for processing raw files, handle etc. etc. and everything else you'd want/need to make this actually work for production purposes.


It brings the cost of your body down by ~$2,000, but anyone who thought they were going to get a Scarlet for $9,000 was kidding themselves anyway.
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We can parse the numbers to get as specific as we want, we're still bringing up the same point.

DeJager said:
It still is saving you thousands of dollars. I'm not sure why you're being so negative about it. It's a great little camera for the price. Most people know that they will have to invest more than the cost of the body but if an individual can save a couple thousand dollars in the process then that is a win-win.


I also tend to forget that seemingly everybody here is anti-RED for some reason with the exception of a few individuals.
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I'm not anti-RED, I'm a realist. RED can give you incredible results, but its costs extend far beyond the camera body. For a small video shop, the only real viable way to justify getting one RED is to commit to an almost exclusively RED workflow, which is a very costly investment...but one that people are making. I have certain caveats with their product, but I can see numerous benefits, too.

My point from the get-go was that the cost of 99% of video workflows (which tend to need at most 1080p resolution) require a much smaller hidden investment. Someone at start-up can get some minor video work with a T3i, a $1000 desktop, and a couple pieces of lighting and rigging gear for around $2000 total. It doesn't have the same level of capability that the RED has, but for those who are working on a budget of ~$7000-$10,000, it's a more reasonable option.

Thank you for the info, though. It's VERY good news that the Scarlet's on a path to compete at a lower price-point. The only ones winning here are us.
 
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I'm not anti-RED at all, but I've always thought the whole Scarlet deal was ridiculous. It's just media baiting - they get great headlines because you can get '4k for $9,000!!!!!!!' when in fact it's 4k for more like $20,000.

For the same price that I could kit out a Scarlet, I could get an F3 with 3 lenses. I just dislike the dishonesty about it, mostly because I'm sure there are people who have been baited in to the headline, without realising that Red's DSMC system, however you feel about it, is going to force them to cough up about another body's worth of dollar to get the thing running at peak.
 
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