editing How do I get this type of slow motion?

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harmonica44

It starts at 12:28, in that clip from The Chaser (2008).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-26bsY6OaU

I tried applying that slow mo with Premiere Pro, but it looks more like slow mo from a cheesy porno movie, when I do it. Can you get that slow mo in post with Premiere's effect and doubling on the frames? Or would I need something like twixtor for that type of slow mo?
 
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Best option: Shoot at a higher frame rate. That looks like its half or 1/3 speed.

What you're probably seeing on your slow motion done in Premier Pro is just less frames per second being shown. I guess you mean it looks like the motion isn't what you're used to? To choppy?

There may be other methods that use software to blend the frames together to approximate the slow motion but what you really want is the faster frame rate when shooting.
 
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Yeah too choppy. The slow mo in The Chaser is choppy too though, so I thought it was also probably just 24fps slowed down. I have the option of doing 24, 30 or 60 on my camera. 60 doesn't look that good though.
 
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the 60fps in DSLRs can look great, albeit at a lower resolution. Stick footage into AE, and use the time remap, or the interpolation function in that. AE's optical flow slow motion is much better than most slow motion engines I've seen in most NLEs.

If you interpret the \60fps stuff properly it should look fine. Can be useful for slowing down even more as well, put that footage into AE and slow it down even more (interpret at say, 12fps rather than 24) and you'll get even slower.

Twixtor also works really well.
 
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jax_rox said:
the 60fps in DSLRs can look great, albeit at a lower resolution. Stick footage into AE, and use the time remap, or the interpolation function in that. AE's optical flow slow motion is much better than most slow motion engines I've seen in most NLEs.

If you interpret the \60fps stuff properly it should look fine. Can be useful for slowing down even more as well, put that footage into AE and slow it down even more (interpret at say, 12fps rather than 24) and you'll get even slower.

Twixtor also works really well.
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This is pretty much what I was going to say earlier but the video didnt load so I wasn't sure if there was something specific about that video. My experience with slow motion in Premiere isn't great and AE is the better option. Then of course there's plugins like Twixter which help :) as Jax said basically..
 
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Quick basic workflow question with slow motion footage.

Say I shoot a clip at 60fps on my 600D, when i come to editing do i set my timeline at 60fps and then slow it down from there or can i put my 60fps footage in a 25fps timeline and still slow it down?
 
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from my understanding, the best way to achieve slow motion is this:

1. record at highest frame rate possible 60fps
2. shoot at shutter speed of 2000-4000
3. get subject at a distance rather than closer
4. if subject is close then make them move in slow motion
5. shoot with plain backgrounds, wall or sky something like that

thats what i was told for twixtor anyway
 
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You could try something to see if it works. I suspect that the too choppy is coming, not only from the action from who/what you're shooting, but also from camera movement (panning or tilting, or even more). Try slowing down a scene that has action (since I assume you'd only slow mo action) but no camera movement and see if you can live with how the end product is. If so, problem solved.

or as others have suggested, AE.
 
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Absolution_Films said:
Say I shoot a clip at 60fps on my 600D, when i come to editing do i set my timeline at 60fps and then slow it down from there or can i put my 60fps footage in a 25fps timeline and still slow it down?
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You edit in a 25fps timeline, and interpret the 60fps footage at 25fps, so it plays back at just under half speed, though I'd assume you mean 50fps as a PAL 600D's highest frame rate is 50fps. Either way the workflow is the same.
 
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jax_rox said:
You edit in a 25fps timeline, and interpret the 60fps footage at 25fps, so it plays back at just under half speed, though I'd assume you mean 50fps as a PAL 600D's highest frame rate is 50fps. Either way the workflow is the same.
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The Canon DSLRs can be configured for PAL or NTSC within the camera settings as required.
 
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harmonica44 said:
Okay thanks. It's just with 60fps on my Canon T2i, I loose 360 pixels as oppose to 24fps. I don't want the pixel loss to be that high. So I will try AE and twixtor if it works well enough.
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For the vast majority of shots, the loss in spatial resolution will be well worth the gain in temporal resolution.
 
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harmonica44 said:
Okay thanks. It's just with 60fps on my Canon T2i, I loose 360 pixels as oppose to 24fps. I don't want the pixel loss to be that high. So I will try AE and twixtor if it works well enough.
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In that case shoot 30fps.
It gives you 25% extra frames to start with.
You'll need all the frames you can get when yo want software to interpolate.

With slow mo 'less is not more' ;)

My experience is that some organic movements are very hard to interpolate for any software (like long hair dancing, water splashing).
 
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