DSLR Concert Filming?

Recently I have gotten asked to film at a few major concerts. The only problem is that I have no concert filming experience and need some tips on angles, basics, and gear to make a successful concert edit. I'm running a Canon T2i and thinking about purchasing a Glidecam HD 2000 so give me some tips please!
Thanks
 
turn the ISO to 6400, hold it in one hand above everyone's heads while standing in the audience, and make sure to zoom A LOT!!



^^^ do NOT do any of that!
 
Recently I have gotten asked to film at a few major concerts. The only problem is that I have no concert filming experience

How on earth did you manage to arrange that? :hmm:

need some tips on angles, basics, and gear to make a successful concert edit. I'm running a Canon T2i and thinking about purchasing a Glidecam HD 2000 so give me some tips please!
Thanks

How many cameras you gonna be running? A good concert edit's going to have several angles and widths, for starters. What are these major concerts being held in? Arena-sized events? Gymnasium? Hole-in-the-wall dive bar? Cousin Clyde's's back yard?

Gonna need more than just a few details to help out on this one, I think.
 
What's the deal with the sound? Are you getting a feed off of the FOH console or a multi-track mix? How are you going to capture the scratch/sync track?

Oh, aren't DSLRs limited to 10 or 15 minutes? You need something - or several somethings - that will shoot for the entire length of the show.
 
The 12 min limit will be a real troublesome limit.
You can capture complete songs (unless they are prog rockers with 30+ minute compositions ;) ), but you'll miss all the stuff in between.

Besides that: shooting with only one camera will make it hard to make a really good registration of the show, unless they want you to shoot just a total of the show, so the band can review their performance.

With 1 camera you can maybe shoot 1 or maybe 3 complete songs and then edit it with footage from the other songs. It's a huge compromise and far from ideal, but within it's limits it can be done. (I've done it for fun once.)

And indeed: audio!!
 
Shoot some shots of the audience to cut around if you need to switch angles, or there's a really bad shake.

Maybe shoot some close-ups of their instruments while they practice, and use that in the final edit.
 
In my experience one camera is not the way to go...especially if you are shooting with a T2i...
Last concert/dance event I shot with DSLRs I had a 7D, 60D and a 5Dm2 and staggered the recording start times to be able to compensate for the 12min limit....
 
You really need multiple cameras to cover a concert. Especially if you have to stop/start record or change cards/tapes at regular intervals.

At worst, give yourself one locked off camera that covers the stage/venue from a nice spot and won't get obstructed and can roll with minimal operation. Something you can check on between sets.

Hard to say what you should do with the glidecam without seeing the venue, but if you can be slightly off-stage right or left you can get nice profiles of the performers. If there is a security alley b/n stage and the crowd try to get in there where you can get the crowd or the performers in that "oh-so-rock-and-roll" low angle shot.

Ideally you've got 1 camera grabbing a wide, 1 camera on your glide moving around, and a 3rd with a long lens and an operator who can focus so you can get CUs on faces, or details of the instruments being played, stuff like that.

With one camera and a 12 minute roll limit, your goal probably becomes working with the performers to grab certain specific tracks, since you don't want to roll out or overheat in the middle of that bitchin' 7 minute bass solo, or whatever.

Also, drift is going to be ... a problem ... when you try to synch long recordings from DSLR to a recording of the concert on whatever you are going to record the audio to. Long story less long - the longer your recording is, the more variance in the time base between the camera files and the sound files. Recording a concert without jammed time code is an excercise in manually snipping and nudging timelines that will drive even the most OCD person completely mad. I'm no expert on these things, but in my limited experience 2 XH-A1 cameras + 1 stereo mix from an 8 track portable recorder == absolute synch nightmare. I can't imagine that a DSLR and a "zoom" or whatever you planned to record the sound with would be any easier. :(
 
I agree with everyone here. Because of the time limit as well as just having one angle it could get pretty boring and possibly unusable if the band want the talking and stuff in between the songs.

If you could even get just one more camera I think you'd be a lot better off. For one you could cut between the footage from the cams so the 12 min limit doesn't really matter if you plan a little bit. I hope this helped out a little bit.
 
they could be a great band with great music but just have boring visuals...

^this. As a member of a visually boring band, that's a good reason to get you film folks involved with shows, rather than just posting boring still shot concert videos. But running around and launching fireballs out of your guitar isn't always appropriate for every type of music!
 
Must be quite an awful band if people can't keep their attention at a single angle.

Let's leave the music aside - I've seen (and recorded) too many bands that were really boring (or inept) musically.

And which angle is optimum? When you are a member of the live audience you can focus upon - or have your focus drawn to - various parts of the stage. The drummer beats out the intro, you watch him; the bassist joins in, you shift your attention; suddenly the guitars come crashing in with a blaze of lights and pyro. After a few moments the singer appears center stage in a blaze of spotlights. As an audience member you can watch anything that you want to after that.

One camera taking a wide shot of the entire stage from the back of the club/hall/stadium is going to be pretty dull. There is not enough detail for the TV viewer to focus upon.

Give me one - just one - example of an interesting concert film that has only one angle.
 
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