In a lot of car chases, they will show cop cars, and innocent bystander cars, get rammed into other cars, and even flip over. However they never specify weather the passengers die or not. They only show if they do, if it's a main character. But it feels like the movie doesn't care about bystanders enough as a result, and therefore is just not hard-nosed enough for a thriller. I mean in the Bourne Supremacy for example, couldn't they have shown all the people die and get maimed, that are crashed into during the chase, especially for a type of action movie that want's to be more realistic, compared to a lot of others?
Anyone else annoyed with this in car chases?
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Yeah I hear what you are saying.
Sorry to be off topic but the thing that gets me in movies is people ordering a salad without mentioning the type of dressing or sitting down at the bar and saying "give me a beer" What kind of beer? There are millions of beers. What bar doesn't have at least 3 types of beer. I've beer to a bar with 115 types of beer. Just my thing!
Sorry to be off topic but the thing that gets me in movies is people ordering a salad without mentioning the type of dressing or sitting down at the bar and saying "give me a beer" What kind of beer? There are millions of beers. What bar doesn't have at least 3 types of beer. I've beer to a bar with 115 types of beer. Just my thing!
The job of a director is to direct/edit, not document.
The director ACTIVELY crafts a story meant to communicate a central series of events.
This means the repercussions of "reality" don't have a place in the telling of the story.
Generally, the audience PURPOSEFULLY forgives a certain/calibrated amount of bullsh!t.
It's not just car chases.
It's often just plain common sense that is violated.
SOP for police is routinely violated.
Medical fiction/fantasy often passes as legit.
Courtroom drama in entertainment is nothing like the real deal.
Every whiz kid can "hack" into literally any computer system and patch wildly different programs together in seconds.
Expository conversations that transpire between couples/partners/teams that would never take place in the real world.
Yet... walking, talking, breathing, eating, pooping adults drop millions and millions and more millions year after year for this goobldy-gok.
Where are the children in THE MATRIX?
Why doesn't the director show us the grieving wives and crying kids after their cop/security husbands are slaughtered in your average "kill 'em all" action flick?
Doesn't anyone ever p!ss or sh!t?
Does anyone ever clean out the gunk on their refrigerator shelves?
I've never had sex that looks or sounds like anything I've seen in film. Maybe I'm the only one that's ever had fun, laughed and played. Surely. ("Ow! You're on my hair"! "Sorry. Lemme turn around to fix that. Nom nom nom!!!")
I don't think I've ever seen a woman in film fix her underwire.
Kids don't goto the doctor unless it's something major.
Loaves of bread always have at least two slices left.
The BS list goes on forever.
Directors direct.
They exclude with purpose.
The director ACTIVELY crafts a story meant to communicate a central series of events.
This means the repercussions of "reality" don't have a place in the telling of the story.
Generally, the audience PURPOSEFULLY forgives a certain/calibrated amount of bullsh!t.
It's not just car chases.
It's often just plain common sense that is violated.
SOP for police is routinely violated.
Medical fiction/fantasy often passes as legit.
Courtroom drama in entertainment is nothing like the real deal.
Every whiz kid can "hack" into literally any computer system and patch wildly different programs together in seconds.
Expository conversations that transpire between couples/partners/teams that would never take place in the real world.
Yet... walking, talking, breathing, eating, pooping adults drop millions and millions and more millions year after year for this goobldy-gok.
Where are the children in THE MATRIX?
Why doesn't the director show us the grieving wives and crying kids after their cop/security husbands are slaughtered in your average "kill 'em all" action flick?
Doesn't anyone ever p!ss or sh!t?
Does anyone ever clean out the gunk on their refrigerator shelves?
I've never had sex that looks or sounds like anything I've seen in film. Maybe I'm the only one that's ever had fun, laughed and played. Surely. ("Ow! You're on my hair"! "Sorry. Lemme turn around to fix that. Nom nom nom!!!")
I don't think I've ever seen a woman in film fix her underwire.
Kids don't goto the doctor unless it's something major.
Loaves of bread always have at least two slices left.
The BS list goes on forever.
Directors direct.
They exclude with purpose.
Okay so they don't have to show the actual cops and bystanders getting killed or maimed. But like they could imply it through editing. Show a cop drive and vear off then show something crash through the windshield, heading for his face, but don't actually show it hit his face. And as the drivers drive through a crosswalk, don't actually show the little girl get hit, just show that she is about to, then cutaway, to the look on the drivers face, as the car bounces, or something.
Thats wat I likket about the first, austin powers......al the grieving kids and friends of the bad guys.........(the second movies where crap)
I was wondering if jou can make a movie, where the movie direction becomes difrent by a car chase accadent.....
I was wondering if jou can make a movie, where the movie direction becomes difrent by a car chase accadent.....
Because nobody cares what happened to the random guy. I wouldn't care.. People don't care about that even in real life from news reports.
addition to my above post.
Also, mostly car cases impact just two people (cop vs bad guys)), storywise. If more people begin to get involved in the scene - you might loose this tight tension, imho.
And if there is large number people involved in the "chase", Id call it a "disaster movie". Speaking of disaster movies and involvement of random people.. that one part from cameron's Titanic, when the ship was sinking, remeber? Mother putting her kids to bed and humming a lullaby, as the water gets into their room.. or elderly couple laying together in their room, as husband holds his wife, as they re about to drown... that sh1t is still teary!! Lol
So, I guess other random people could get involved into a story, but that's just to show how big of an impact certain action is causing, with could be seen as a disaster movie. Car chase is personal cat n mouse game. Nobody cares about people around them.
Also, mostly car cases impact just two people (cop vs bad guys)), storywise. If more people begin to get involved in the scene - you might loose this tight tension, imho.
And if there is large number people involved in the "chase", Id call it a "disaster movie". Speaking of disaster movies and involvement of random people.. that one part from cameron's Titanic, when the ship was sinking, remeber? Mother putting her kids to bed and humming a lullaby, as the water gets into their room.. or elderly couple laying together in their room, as husband holds his wife, as they re about to drown... that sh1t is still teary!! Lol
So, I guess other random people could get involved into a story, but that's just to show how big of an impact certain action is causing, with could be seen as a disaster movie. Car chase is personal cat n mouse game. Nobody cares about people around them.
You know, Harmonica, that 98%+ of everything that happens in action movies never happens. Cars do not blow up when they crash, not even when they get a normal bullet in the gas tank; in fact, even incendiary rounds only cause a fast, hot fire, not an explosion (ever watch Myth Busters?). And did you ever notice that the good guys car can take repeated rounds from a shotgun at three feet and not blow up, while the good guy can blow up the antagonists car with one round at 100 yards? BTW, a normal pistol only is accurate, in fact only has a range, of 10 to 60 feet depending upon barrel length. And when a body is hit by a bullet the body doesn't go flying back ten feet. There are thousands of examples of where filmmakers defy reality to entertain audiences, just Google movie clichés. If you want reality stick with documentaries.
As I reiterate over and over again, we're in the business of creating believable artificial realities for the purposes of entertainment.
As I reiterate over and over again, we're in the business of creating believable artificial realities for the purposes of entertainment.
We suspend our disbelief, and we are entertained.
PFSHH!! and im sure now you will say that the dinosaurs in jurassic park weren't real!?!?
And I swear, i've heard that "300" was an actual documentary.... so was "blair witch project" as well..
Hello harmonica, this is rather off topic but still...
I've been off this forum for a few months due to exam and other things. I was wondering, have you finished with the short film you were making? and if so, could you re-post the link again? I was actually kinda looking forward to it. Thanks
I've been off this forum for a few months due to exam and other things. I was wondering, have you finished with the short film you were making? and if so, could you re-post the link again? I was actually kinda looking forward to it. Thanks
I once had a friend who was completely convinced that cars blow up when they crash. The really sad thing is at the time she was working as a traffic announcer for local radio. One would think that in her reports she never once came across the phrase "fireball of death" might have tipped her off...
All that said, if you want to make the audience feel bad for watching a high paced action scene (and you might), just show the aftermath of the car chase. People crying over the corpses of loved ones set to soft, sad music, that sort of thing.
All that said, if you want to make the audience feel bad for watching a high paced action scene (and you might), just show the aftermath of the car chase. People crying over the corpses of loved ones set to soft, sad music, that sort of thing.
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