Would 3D movies look better if they were shot deep focus?

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harmonica44

I always think 3D has looked unimpressive in the 3 movies I have seen so far. Avatar, Thor, and The Avengers.

I think it's because the DOF is shallow. The pleasure of the 3D is being able to look at the foreground as well as the background too. But when the background is shallow it just doesn't worky. Sometimes the stuff that is out of focus becomes part of some of the 3D and it looks like it should in focus as well, but isn't. I think it would look better if they shot the movies with really deep focus. What do you think?
 
The reality is that 3D movies are shot with deeper depth of field compare to their 2D counterparts, simply because it makes things really difficult and looks off if it's too shallow.
 
Avatar had really deep focus throughout basically the entire movie. And it looked F'ing great in 3D.

Thor and Avengers were both shot in 2D. I wonder why they didn't look as good.
 
H44 can't even shoot two (2) minutes of video, but he's worried about the DOF in 3D films?

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h44 is going to shoot a movie next week in 3d at 8fps at 0 degree shutter speed in super fast motion which he will boom himself and film himself while also attending two other films at the same time for which he will direct and boom for also, which will be funded by someone who he does not trust and will pull out at the last minute because he forgot that he lent his camera to his friend however he promises to shoot this film when his friend gives it back to him.

but in answer to your question, 3d is crap, is not ready and 2d should be the norm until ultra high spec specialist screens come out provided detail never seen before, im also more interested in films that are like those rides which immerse you in the flim, so the seats rock when theres explosion, if theres a splash some people get wet if theres food being cooked, we should be able to smell it etc etc
 
8salacious9 said:
im also more interested in films that are like those rides which immerse you in the flim, so the seats rock when theres explosion, if theres a splash some people get wet if theres food being cooked, we should be able to smell it etc etc
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The 4DX film theaters are popping up in many countries, but I don't believe there's one in the US yet (outside of short films at theme parks)

There's only one in Japan: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/2/4293178/the-sights-smells-and-sprays-of-iron-man-3-in-4dx

I tried the D-Box motion seats for Dredd - pretty terrible, tbh.

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Yeah, without going and watching Avatar again, it's difficult to believe it was all shallow depth of field.

But, I will say with concrete confidence, without rewatching it, that Prometheus used "deep" depth of field to amazing effect. I have to say that, having seen it in 3D on an IMAX --the way everyone should get to see it, and I know that other I.T.ers have pointed this out before, that many of the shots in Prometheus in 3D were just efing incredible. Really, say what you will about its story, but some of the vistas and the little ship-in-the-spacescape-or-landscape scenes in Prometheus were just breathtakingly gorgeous and spectacular. Period. And they weren't using shallow depth of field in those shots, no sir.

It occurs to me, as has been pointed out, I think, by Jax Rox and maybe others, what does that even mean when everything is actually CGI, not actually filmed? Anyway. But the filmmakers made a choice, at least. Do we -simulate- a shallow or a deep depth of field? So it's still germane, right? Or wait. At least parts of the landscapes we see in Prometheus are real landscapes shot in Scandinavia, right? And they surely shot those with a wide depth of field? So there ya go.

So I have to respecfully disagree with the premise of the thread's argument.

I can, however, sympathize with the late Roger Ebert's argument that regular 2D actually represents 3D well enough, or better than the current 3D technology. But, I must hasten to reiterate that Prometheus, probably more than any 3D film to date, capitalized on using the new 3D for giving us esquisite 3D vistas in "deep focus" that really did knock my socks off, whatever flaws the film as a whole may otherwise have.
 
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