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doing writers research about american high schools, specifically the lives of very poor kids, but I can't find the right resources.

I've watched documentaries like this one about very poor white children in richmond


My main question I'm having right now is ... how do I find high schools in economically poor/challenged areas that have a significant population of white students?

I have been able to locate and research poor high school with like 97% black students in richmond va and I have done tons of research on that school and area but i feel incomplete. I also want to look at high schools that have more diversity and high schools that have mostly white students too, while remaining very poor in economically challenged areas.

How do i locate these types of schools so i can do research on them?
Ideally in virginia or on the east coast

I know very poor areas of white people exist in virginia / west virginia since they are on the documentary, i just don't know the names of the schools or precisely where they are
 
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Unfortunately that map only shows school districts, so it's a aggregate of a bunch of different high schools put together.
I can tell that the city of richmond has a lot of diversity and no integration by flipping back and forth, but I can't identify anything specific about any of the high schools in richmond.

It's a cool map though, thanks for trying!
 
How about this? The stats are from the 2020 US Census
Buchanan County demographics

You can see that it's 94% white, and has a poverty rate of 23.9%.
I checked Newark NJ for comparison, and that has a poverty rate of 25.8%.
The overall rate in the US is 11.6%.

Here are the 3 high schools in Buchanan County:
https://www.usnews.com/education/be...stricts/buchanan-county-public-schools-100130

They all show a minority enrollment of 1% or less.

Also, this lists the most rural counties in Virginia, which are the predominantly white areas:
https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/local-news/most-rural-counties-in-virginia/

Since they have small populations, if you google "high schools in county x" there are generally just a few.

Then search "county x demographics" and you'll see the census figures, which include both racial breakdown & poverty rates.
 
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How about this? The stats are from the 2020 US Census
Buchanan County demographics

You can see that it's 94% white, and has a poverty rate of 23.9%.
I checked Newark NJ for comparison, and that has a poverty rate of 25.8%.
The overall rate in the US is 11.6%.

Here are the 3 high schools in Buchanan County:
https://www.usnews.com/education/be...stricts/buchanan-county-public-schools-100130

They all show a minority enrollment of 1% or less.

Also, this lists the most rural counties in Virginia, which are the predominantly white areas:
https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/local-news/most-rural-counties-in-virginia/

Since they have small populations, if you google "high schools in county x" there are generally just a few.

Then search "county x demographics" and you'll see the census figures, which include both racial breakdown & poverty rates.
Thanks Mara! This is great!
This is what I was looking for regarding poor white schools.

I still want to locate a poor school with a mixed diversity too, your census approach was great, I'll try searching along those lines to find one

BTW here is what I found from Buchanan county

Hurley High school has a mascott.... wtf.. just wtf.. a mascott that is a confederate soldier...that is the high school mascott. WOW

Grundy High School is renowned for its wrestling program, which has won 23 state championships, and has an enrollment of 362 people.
Council High has an enrollment of about 22 students per grade level... damn that is some real small town vibe, sounds unique
Twin Valley seems nice and has a good website
 
Glad I could help!
And yeah, the mascot gives you some insight to the area, I think.
Craziest part is there is *ONE* black student that goes to the school, can you imagine?
It sounds like the plot to a reality TV show, and then opening credits would be them walking through the huge confederate flag painted on the two main doors.

Little update, i found a great school Essex that apparently chris brown dropped out of!
It has a good mix of like 60% black and 40% white so it can represent a lot of different types of people in a story, sounds awesome, there is very little online footprint for this school though I did find this bizarre article...

One of their teachers got naked and charged a cop and was shot to death.. fucking weird.
 
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Follow up on that Essex teacher is really tragic.

His death inspired the passage of the MARCUS system "Mental Health Awareness Response and Community Understanding Services system" to ensure that a mental health specialist is on hand when police respond to an individual having a mental health crisis.

His sister, running for governor, was invited to speak and had this to say

“Please take a moment to pat yourselves on the back for doing exactly what this racist, corrupt system, and broken may I also add, expected you all to do; make the MARCUS alert bill a watered-down, ineffective bill that will continue to ensure that having a mental health crisis results in a death sentence,”

She's really pissed off because they refused to pass a law establishing civilian review of police accountability, blasting performative politicians and saying "we can no longer beg our oppressors to be our saviors"

Here is the review case after her brother was shot


He had a mental health episode after smoking marijuana with someone, triggered some pre existing condition or something

Princess Blanding regards the new report as another cover-up of a police officer’s killing of a Black man.

“Marcus was not violent toward anyone,” Ms. Blanding said. “He was in his own world. He was unclothed and he did not have a weapon. He needed help, not death.”

Police respresentative responded that the teacher, Mr. Peters, appeared to have been “incapable of rational communication,” which means that de-escalation techniques were useless and therefore unnecessary to even attempt before shooting. How is that even an excuse holy shit
 
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You can always use my town!

It's 99% white and republican, with a mean IQ of 80. Don't let the statistics in the article below fool you, households here don't actually make an average of 30k a year, that statistic is way too high because the average is thrown off by a handful of legacy wealth families who have 5 or 10 million dollars from inherited land. No person in my city has ever become conventionally successful through their own efforts, (Except for Orville Redenbacher) and it's just wall to wall wage slaves and nepotism princes.

If you're curious as to what very poor white kids do in high school. I'll fill in some details from my youth here in this flaming trash heap.

1. Huffing things. Just anything, glue, spray cans, drink a bottle of cough syrup, take motion sickness pills until you throw up. I would sit in the library reading Asimov and look out the window in Jr High, and there would be kids outside the window with a paper lunch bag crumpled over their heads, and you could see it moving in the rhythm of their breathing.

2. Repairing damaged cd's and cassettes of Iron Maiden albums that other students dropped when they got too wasted on trucker speed during recess. Somewhere in Time was the most valuable find, but you could get 2 packs of camel non filters for a copy of Powerslave, or Seventh son of a Seventh son. If you found a copy of 5150 or Back in Black though, you were the "rich kid" that week, and everyone came to your house to party, which meant drinking everclear mixed with Crest white strips, or whatever your friend with the jean jacket and wallet chain had invented that week.

3. Robbing houses. If your family was too poor to have tv or a bottle of cough syrup, you could go around town on foot stealing things. Usually while abusing over the counter medication which was also stolen. Sometimes the better thieves at school could earn enough money to start a crack habit, or join a church, or in a surprising number of cases, both! If you worked at the highest paying job in town, the trailer hitch factory, then some day you might be able to afford a car, which could be used to steal more valuable items, such as copper wire.

4. Murdering people over small amounts of drugs. During my time in high school, many of my classmates either murdered someone, or were murdered by someone, typically over a small amount of drugs, usually meth. A guy I once played basketball with killed his own grandmother during a fight over a tv he was trying to steal from her house to take to a pawn shop for meth money. They arrested him with the pawn receipt, which was for 20 dollars. The week before I left for California, a local kid had bludgeoned another kid to death at a party over a quarter oz of weed. Every time I tipped a teenage waitress in California with a Porche Carrera 20 bucks for bringing me a glass of coke, I thought about how some poor kid from a trap neighborhood had died over the same amount.

5. Explaining to each other which metal bands were heavier than which other metal bands. EG. Testament is way better than Napalm Death, but neither one is as dumb and loud as Corrosion of Conformity. It was a treasure trove of wisdom when it came to dropout metal.

Of course, occasionally there was a smart kid at school. Maybe there were 30 or 35 of us. Every single one including myself moved away at 18. The ones who stayed mostly became alcoholics, and when I returned after 20 years, the people I went to high school with all looked like they were 70. Since my return, a shocking number of people I went to high school with have just died, liver or kidney failure at 42-45. One of my best friends from high school drank for 20 years straight, and now when you talk to him, he can't think, or remember, or do any intelligence based task. He finally got a new job after 4 years unemployed, and he now reviews vape pens on YouTube for 15c a week.

But it wasn't all bad, there were some success stories. People that stayed here sometimes reached dizzying levels of success, such as becoming a disillusioned real estate agent, a predatory construction worker who earns a living bilking elderly people with stories about how their house would soon collapse if they didn't hire them to do huge amounts of unnecessary work. Last month, an NRA member who's reading level could be described as "Fox News" opened fire on a fedex delivery person, and once arrested, claimed that he thought he was being robbed by a man trying to carry a package up to his house. He chased the delivery driver in his car and hit the delivery vehicle several times with shotgun blasts. Yeeee- Haw.


Can't imagine why this place hasn't become a tourist destination.

Anyway, now you know a bit about what poverty looks like in a predominantly white area. Basically, the republicans are right, and if you just pay everyone nothing, defund schools, and trap people in a place with no hope, that really works out well because it's super patriotic. The Jails and prisons and mental hospitals are full, and we have a flourishing population of obese people wearing cowboy hats and brandishing murder weapons on the street like a child with a new toy. My sincere thanks to the deep thinkers who have helped spread these benign philosophies.

A big thing i've been wondering for poverty areas in modern times is .. do the kids have cell phones of their own? at what age? do they have data plans or is it just wifi?

from your area Do people ever get killed from stray bullets or is all the violence more targeted without the collateral damage?
What do people do when they get high on meth.. I've only seen media representations of it, my guess is like, dig holes, reassemble electronics, and dance. am I close?
 
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A big thing i've been wondering for poverty areas in modern times is .. do the kids have cell phones of their own? at what age? do they have data plans or is it just wifi?

from your area Do people ever get killed from stray bullets or is all the violence more targeted without the collateral damage?
What do people do when they get high on meth.. I've only seen media representations of it, my guess is like, dig holes, reassemble electronics, and dance. am I close?
I've never heard of a stray bullet situation here. It's mostly intoxicated people killing each other up close during domestic disputes of some kind, not necessarily romantic, but just like arguments over bullshit.

I'd say that today almost every kid has a cell phone, though many have very cheap cell phones. An iphone would be like a status symbol for kids here. In 2000, I bought a palm pilot, kind of an early smart phone, and there was only one other person that had one. It's very common to see for example 4x3 aspect monitors being used in businesses and homes that you would otherwise think of as well funded. Like banks here frequently have equipment that's a decade or more out of date.

As far as the meth heads, I did my best to keep my distance. They are dangerous, unpredictable, and have a lot of energy. One day a group of people was getting into a car to go somewhere, and I went with them, and there were a few people in the car on meth. I was just trying to go to a party, but, and this is true, everyone in the car was involved in 3 felonies by the time we got to our destination. One guy was carrying an unreegistered handgun. We stopped twice en route. Both times at the request of one of the meth people. One ran up to his ex girlfriends house and stole all the mail out of the mailbox, to "See who she was talking to". A few blocks later, the other one asked us to stop by a gas station for smokes. He ran behind the gas station, stole a tank of propane, jumped back into the car, and demanded we take off instantly. I asked if they thought it was a good idea to commit felonies in broad daylight for no reason, and they became visibly nervous and angry, suspecting that I might be police.

I never took a ride with meth heads again for the rest of my life. Fast forward a decade, and all the methheads have multiple front teeth missing, as the meth apparently rots them out.

I have not seen directly, but have heard numerous eye witness accounts, of methheads disassembling items in the home, such as microwaves, tv sets, and the like. I know some of the local cops on a friendly basis, and apparently there are a lot of electrocutions and house fires associated with meth.

It's the main drug of choice in this area, and from what I've seen, there is nothing good about it.
 
Check out Campbell County, TN. It’s one of the most impoverished counties in the nation, ~97% caucasian, and >80% of students on subsidized school meals.

It was a county with coal mining as its economic center, but when the coal mines largely pulled out (and automated what was left), it left the county destitute and with low education rates and no transferrable skills. People went to school through middle school, and then joined the family business. When the industry dried up, there was nothing to take its place. It’s now facing generational poverty and a continued low rate of education. It’s also rife with abject poverty, as opposed to relative poverty.
 
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IDK if i'm wasting my time or talking to myself here but here are a couple of interesting things

Remember that teacher was naked, charged a cop and was killed?
Here's his sister, lamenting that she can't use her brothers death to point her finger at white people.

"Unfortunately there was a black officer that killed him, there was a black police chief, there was a black mayor, there was a black commonwealth attorney"


it's unfortunate that it wasn't a white person that did it.
God i hate politics. She is kinda blaming the NAACP for this stance though, so i see where she is coming from, but shit you gotta make this about the institution of police not about race.

Here is another interesting article -
White student called a black teacher a racial slur, and then the teacher assaulted the student in front of the class

The kid should be expelled, instigating this kind of bullshit.

God damn there is so much racial hatred in our country.
 
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I'm going to message high schoolers on instagram and offer them $20 for a 10 minute conversation, isn't that a solid plan 🤔

The alternative is to to make the five hour round trip and visit during a public event like a football game, talk to people in the stands.
Problem is I'm a middle aged male and I drive a large windowless van from out of state, so that's 3 red flags for any watchful eyes, sounds like a shitty idea and I really hate the idea of driving for 5 hours.

Sounds awkward to message young people about how im writing a book but i've never written a book, but its just the internet so whats the worst that can happen
 
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I found this information online about meeting strangers online


I feel like the key line is "I wonder which one of us is the murderer"
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