I need some help with this for my shot list.
Can someone help me out with the steps and shots.
Can someone help me out with the steps and shots.
Shot Listing A Ball Of Energy In Hand FX
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I can do something like this with Vegas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkjsMKdsZaA
I was hoping for something more impressive.
I'll have to do this for now and track the movement of the actresses hand with red dot tracking or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkjsMKdsZaA
I was hoping for something more impressive.
I'll have to do this for now and track the movement of the actresses hand with red dot tracking or something.
A. You need tracking markers for something like this, to track it properly. Use a GREEN dot, not a red one. RED Channel keying will make it difficult. Use ORANGE dots if it's green screen as well.
B. Check Dreadylocks' link, it's actually much better than anything you'll get out of Vegas.
C. Can't really help you storyboard it, as a director... you have to know what it looks like. Questions only you can answer.
Here's an example of something close to what you're talking about:
http://www.vimeo.com/23186872
It's a ball of fire, stylized as not to hide the hand. There actually weren't any tracking markers because I knew it would be an easy track to create.
It was done in After Effects.
If you plan on doing this stuff, you're going to spend a lot of time just learning and redoing effects as you get better. My advice, having worked extensively with VFX for years now, you should find someone else to do them and teach you the basics of how to shoot them for future reference.
B. Check Dreadylocks' link, it's actually much better than anything you'll get out of Vegas.
C. Can't really help you storyboard it, as a director... you have to know what it looks like. Questions only you can answer.
Here's an example of something close to what you're talking about:
http://www.vimeo.com/23186872
It's a ball of fire, stylized as not to hide the hand. There actually weren't any tracking markers because I knew it would be an easy track to create.
It was done in After Effects.
If you plan on doing this stuff, you're going to spend a lot of time just learning and redoing effects as you get better. My advice, having worked extensively with VFX for years now, you should find someone else to do them and teach you the basics of how to shoot them for future reference.
Since we are using Vegas, my example is better because it better represents what we have to use.
I can use a piece of color duct tape on the actresses hand to track the movement to create the glow effect.
I just so happen to have fluorescent green tape. But, we are shooting in the woods with lots of green around. The bright green tape should work.
I can use a piece of color duct tape on the actresses hand to track the movement to create the glow effect.
I just so happen to have fluorescent green tape. But, we are shooting in the woods with lots of green around. The bright green tape should work.
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Use neon orange. Ductape makes a roll that color. It's easier to key in your situation, as long as nothing else is orange around it.
Also, just because that's all that you have doesn't mean it's all that you can get. There are so many VFX artists on this planet that want to work on good projects... you may be limiting yourself to poor VFX, but you probably have a good reason.
Although I've been doing this stuff for a while, you can ignore the advice and do what ya gotta do.
Just trying to help you make a better product.
Good luck man.
It's called BUDGET. I'm in the same boat as the guys on this board trying to make a short for a few hundred dollars--not hundreds of thousands--just hundreds.
I have a 3D artist doing some effects for me with 3D Max and 3D Studio. Other effects I'm doing myself, since I want to learn as I go along. That's why I'm asking questions.
I can buy the orenge duct tape at an art supply store where their prices are much cheaper than Home Depot.
And, thank you for the tips.
I'm adding them to notes in my production book.
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I'll keep it in mind. But, I need to learn some stuff myself.
We do have a good product in development and good people working on it. I have a DP in the 1% in our area who has shot action and greenscreen before. And, he has done it for television networks. So, the camera work and lighting will be topnotch. That's why I'm asking question to make sure I have the shot list done right.
We also have some well-schooled and talented actors in the cast who come from the best acting schools around.
I'm all for learning things yourself, but any "effect" you make in Vegas is probably not going to look all that great. It's simply not a program that's made for doing things like this. If you intend to learn to do the effects yourself, you need to have the rights tools to be able to make effects. Hell, I've been teaching myself After Effects for a while, I'd be willing to take a shot at it for credit and a copy of the finished project.
Do you have a special effects reel that I can look at?
USDFilms is 15 years old and he's making effects twice as good as any you'll produce using Vegas.
There are plenty of people who would be willing to help on your project but I don't think that the way to learn VFX is to gamble the 'look' of your entire film on your ability to very quickly become a good visual effects artist.
There are plenty of people who would be willing to help on your project but I don't think that the way to learn VFX is to gamble the 'look' of your entire film on your ability to very quickly become a good visual effects artist.