Recording Timecode To Audio
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What I do is just yell the scene and take very loudly so I know where I am when I listen to the audio file (I use an edirol R-44 field recorder to record seperately), then I sync the clack of the clapboard on the audio file with the same spot on the camera. It usually sticks out pretty easy as it's so overbearingly loud and sharp.
I don't know about the timecode, just thought I'd toss you that little piece of advice, maybe it'll help.
I don't know about the timecode, just thought I'd toss you that little piece of advice, maybe it'll help.
filmgeek nailed it.. this is precisely what a clapboard is for. If you don't have one, can't afford one, choose to work without one.. have someone stand in front of camera and clearly say the number of the scene and take being shot and clap their hands at the beginning (or end) of each take. then use the audio of the clap to sync.. a clapboard will be a bit easier to work with as it's a very consistent sound, but on a shoestring or in a pinch two hands work just as well. 
That's actually great advice, but perhaps I should have explained myself better. I decided to make my original post short and sweet because when I posted question that were long and drawn out with lots of information nobody responded to them. lol.
But in any case, the reason I want to record a timecode to the audio is because I film live music concerts and use multiple camera. I am going to use an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R to record each channel individually (vocals, drums, guitars, bass, etc.) to my laptop and I want to be able to easily sync the audio to the video which is going to be recorded with timecode. If both cameras and the audio record start at the same time or have the right adjusted or user set timecode, I'll be able to swap between all the camera angles I have when making a final edit and sync the audio up perfectly in post. It will save me A LOT of time and effort in post.
But in any case, the reason I want to record a timecode to the audio is because I film live music concerts and use multiple camera. I am going to use an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R to record each channel individually (vocals, drums, guitars, bass, etc.) to my laptop and I want to be able to easily sync the audio to the video which is going to be recorded with timecode. If both cameras and the audio record start at the same time or have the right adjusted or user set timecode, I'll be able to swap between all the camera angles I have when making a final edit and sync the audio up perfectly in post. It will save me A LOT of time and effort in post.
I still don't see where your problem is. Why don't you start recording sound and video (meaning all the cameras and all your sound-channels) at about the same time and then clap loudly so that all the mics pick it up and your camera, too.
Then you keep all your recorings running all the time. Later in Post you sync it up by manually moving the sound-channels to the right position. What's the big deal with moving a few wav-files around in your timeline?
If everything's synced up, you can start deciding wich angle you want for wich part of the concert. Adobe Premiere Pro has a good Multi-Cam editor where you just click on the cam you wnat while it's playing back. I'm sure most other editing programs have a similar feature.
Then you keep all your recorings running all the time. Later in Post you sync it up by manually moving the sound-channels to the right position. What's the big deal with moving a few wav-files around in your timeline?
If everything's synced up, you can start deciding wich angle you want for wich part of the concert. Adobe Premiere Pro has a good Multi-Cam editor where you just click on the cam you wnat while it's playing back. I'm sure most other editing programs have a similar feature.
Ah.
At the moment, I'm using Windows Movie Maker and I have to lay the audio down in a single (mix-down) channel, load each 30-minute video clip into Windows Movie Maker and try to determine which shots are better by knowing I started all cams at the same time and using time markers to manually scan through my sequences and when all is said and done and I have a final video edit, I have to extract the audio and remaster it for the best possible audio. I can't master the audio ahead of time for I don't really know what songs are gonna be where or how much time is gonna be left between each song until I have the final cut of the video and mastering the audio ahead of time would be time consuming and I would waste a lot of time master audio that will never get used in the final edit.
I was unaware that you could use the multi cam feature without an embedded timecode in all the audio channels and video angles. I will be working with the newest version of Final Cut Pro sometime in the near future (hopefully, next couple of days). Does anyone know if the Multi Angle feature in Final Cut works with audio and/or video clips without timecode and still keeps everything in sync.
At the moment, I'm using Windows Movie Maker and I have to lay the audio down in a single (mix-down) channel, load each 30-minute video clip into Windows Movie Maker and try to determine which shots are better by knowing I started all cams at the same time and using time markers to manually scan through my sequences and when all is said and done and I have a final video edit, I have to extract the audio and remaster it for the best possible audio. I can't master the audio ahead of time for I don't really know what songs are gonna be where or how much time is gonna be left between each song until I have the final cut of the video and mastering the audio ahead of time would be time consuming and I would waste a lot of time master audio that will never get used in the final edit.
I was unaware that you could use the multi cam feature without an embedded timecode in all the audio channels and video angles. I will be working with the newest version of Final Cut Pro sometime in the near future (hopefully, next couple of days). Does anyone know if the Multi Angle feature in Final Cut works with audio and/or video clips without timecode and still keeps everything in sync.