Can you use it with Final Cut Pro, or does FCP already have all the Pro Tools features you would need to make a movie? And what's the difference between Pro Tools 9 and it's predecessors? Thanks.
Question about using Pro Tools.
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FWIW, if you have Final Cut Studio it comes with Soundtrack Pro, which I just used to cut and mix a feature. Some users prefer Pro Tools and others STP. But yes, PT should work with FCP.
STP, which comes with Final Cut Studio, can be used for audio post, but is known for crash problems when you start pushing track counts and (especially third-party) plug-in counts.
Pro Tools 9 is the first PT release under the Avid name instead of Digidesign. Prior to PT9 you had to use Digidesign hardware, now you can ostensibly use any audio interface. If you decide to get PT9 there are very stringent computer hardware and OS requirements; be very sure that you meet them or you could have a very frustrating time of it.
Pro Tools is the standard for audio post because it was there first and is deeply entrenched in the professional audio post community. Beware, it has a very steep learning curve, and the cost of plug-ins can mount very rapidly. PT9 is $600, the Complete Production Toolkit is $2k (almost a must if you're doing audio post); other favorites are Altiverb is $530, iZotope RX 2 is $300 (Advanced is $1,100), Pitch'N'Time is $730... And it gets even more expensive if you go to PT HD - HD 3 Accel is $14k and a C|24 Console is $10k; add another $4k for cabling, etc.
Pro Tools 9 is the first PT release under the Avid name instead of Digidesign. Prior to PT9 you had to use Digidesign hardware, now you can ostensibly use any audio interface. If you decide to get PT9 there are very stringent computer hardware and OS requirements; be very sure that you meet them or you could have a very frustrating time of it.
Pro Tools is the standard for audio post because it was there first and is deeply entrenched in the professional audio post community. Beware, it has a very steep learning curve, and the cost of plug-ins can mount very rapidly. PT9 is $600, the Complete Production Toolkit is $2k (almost a must if you're doing audio post); other favorites are Altiverb is $530, iZotope RX 2 is $300 (Advanced is $1,100), Pitch'N'Time is $730... And it gets even more expensive if you go to PT HD - HD 3 Accel is $14k and a C|24 Console is $10k; add another $4k for cabling, etc.
I've been pleasantly surprised with Adobe Audition in CS5.5, although I have no idea of it's reputation. I'm still learning it, but it sure is nice to be able to identify issues in Premiere, edit tracks in Audition at the press of a button (actually R click, L click) and bounce back to Premiere in an instant. The noise reduction presets are outstanding.
Pro Tools is the choice of professionals because of the PT HD format that can handle hundreds of tracks and plug-ins. If you don't need 256 tracks and 8 stereo busses with four or five plug-ins on each track/buss other DAWs will do a good job for most small indie projects and even work well for medium sized projects. PT isn't the best, just the most popular, and, because it was first, is extremely well supported by third party plug-in vendors.
The big difference between video and audio is that audio is rendered in real time; that requires huge amounts of real time processing power.
The big difference between video and audio is that audio is rendered in real time; that requires huge amounts of real time processing power.
Okay sounds like Pro Tools will has too much for my computer to handle. I got a copy of FCP from a friend but he didn't make me a copy of STP. I'll see if I can get it. What do you mean by rendered in real time exactly?
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So when you say the full kit is a must if you are doing audio in post... I thought Pro Tools was for post. You mean you can use the program while shooting?
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A little history lesson...
Pt started out as an audio post tool and was co-opted by the music community, where it is, arguably the most popular DAW. When PT LE 5.0 came out (the first PT to run natively) it was a stripped down version for the home studio music crowd; you could add the DV ToolKit to get audio post capabilities. BTW, at that time Pro Tools software was free, but since it could only run on Digidesign software you still had to buy their products. That changed with PT6; you got free PT when you bought a Digi interface, but every time you upgraded (6 to 7, i.e.) you are charged.
I guess you could use PT on location, but Boom Recorder is designed for the job and very inexpensive.
Pt started out as an audio post tool and was co-opted by the music community, where it is, arguably the most popular DAW. When PT LE 5.0 came out (the first PT to run natively) it was a stripped down version for the home studio music crowd; you could add the DV ToolKit to get audio post capabilities. BTW, at that time Pro Tools software was free, but since it could only run on Digidesign software you still had to buy their products. That changed with PT6; you got free PT when you bought a Digi interface, but every time you upgraded (6 to 7, i.e.) you are charged.
I guess you could use PT on location, but Boom Recorder is designed for the job and very inexpensive.
Alcove is on the money here. STP does crash and doesn't have an auto-save feature, so you learn to save your work frequently. I had a maximum of about 20 stereo tracks for any given scene, so I wasn't pushing it too hard, but it still froze up every so often.
On the other hand, it was free (with FCS), which fit well in my budget.
I am use to saving every 1-2 minutes anyway, so I won't mind. But I'll see which is best.
Final Cut Pro is a video editor. Soundtrack Pro, which is included in the Final Cut Studio suite, is specifically designed for audio editing and mixing.
Thought so, but you think that audio would be include in a movie editing program, or at least a program that doesn't crash a lot.
Sorry, I don't understand the last question you asked.
Do you mean the program would come with audio you could use like Sound FX or do you mean a video editing program that has audio functions?
If you're looking for that, by all means start with FCP and STP.
Just start doing!! See what works best for you!
Do you mean the program would come with audio you could use like Sound FX or do you mean a video editing program that has audio functions?
If you're looking for that, by all means start with FCP and STP.
Just start doing!! See what works best for you!
I'm talking about audio editing functions. I thought that's what Pro Tools was. So Pro Tools has it's own sound FX too? Sure I'll start with Final cut Pro.