low budget but, big scale premise?

[RaymondLeggs]

If you have a low budget, but big scale premise= disaster? haven't even started the script or even finished the treatment.

I don't play on expecting to ask for more than $10,000-30,000.00 through crowd funding.

part of the money will go into buying equipment, that way i can be prepared for the next film

 

[DDK]

I'm not very experienced with crowd-funding but from what I've gathered, you need more than an idea to get it started. You need an actual product first. For a movie, that would require having the skills, knowledge and at least basic equipment, plus the actors, script, crew in general all onboard for it and possibly having done a sizzle reel already that promotes your story to put up.

People aren't going to give you money just because you say you're going to do something.

 

[Alcove Audio]

Don't buy equipment. RENT. Or hire people who have the gear.

And what's a "big scale" premise? Do you mean big budget? What's a big budget? To Hollywood it's nine figures ($100 million and up). To many indie types it's five figures ($10k and up).

 

[RaymondLeggs]

I do have a cheapo camera and I could make something with no actors, a tank of water, and a Distressed Model of the titanic made to look like the wreck of its sister ship the Britannic.

I am currently planning out that sizzle reel and I am working on a GOOD script....

The movie is to be like a combination of Fright Night/kolchak and tomb raider. Limited locations/tight format/ old fasheoned model/ makeup effects that I know I can do myself and look pretty okay....

I saw a sizzle reel trailer for a then not made yet movie and it got turned into a successful movie. similar in format to what I have planned.

I planned to alocate the $3000.00 or so of the $25-30K I plan to raise to BUYING equipment for a reason. you can get stuff or a discount on amazon. less than any store price i have seen.

Plus I plan to become a photographer to fund the Non sequel with the same character that takes place three years later but yet will be made before the real sequel which takes place weeks after the first movie!

1 sony NEX DSL's a mono pod, Casio High speed camera Adobe software, Editing software, Macbook or a sony laptop, Jib crane, 2 Stand up workers lights, Tripod with fluid head. strait Dolly and circle dolly for that Micheal bay so mo spinning shot I have planned. green screen. Monitor (Big screen tv)...

Lables like Echo bridge and Shout! Factory and asylum pick up low budget Genre movies like water in a sponge for cheap so I might be in luck!

 

[mad_hatter]

I planned to alocate the $3000.00 or so of the $25-30K I plan to raise to BUYING equipment for a reason. you can get stuff or a discount on amazon...

1 sony NEX DSL's a mono pod, Casio High speed camera Adobe software, Editing software, Macbook or a sony laptop, Jib crane, 2 Stand up workers lights, Tripod with fluid head. strait Dolly and circle dolly for that Micheal bay so mo spinning shot I have planned. green screen. Monitor (Big screen tv)...

Sorry, is that your shopping list? You want people to give you money to buy all that stuff? That's not going to happen. People want to contribute to your film, not stuff you just want to buy, the money should be to make that film. All that stuff can be rented, if you do that your contributors can give less... or you can ask for less, just enough to make your film (which is what you should be doing anyway), and your more likely to be able to actually make your film.

 

[VictorSW1974]

This is why the only crowdfunds I pay into are for friends. When a stranger with no track record asks for Kickstarterfunds, just say no. What if they take the money meant for their movie and instead buy a car?

 

[Sweetie]

Sorry, is that your shopping list? You want people to give you money to buy all that stuff? That's not going to happen. People want to contribute to your film, not stuff you just want to buy, the money should be to make that film. All that stuff can be rented, if you do that your contributors can give less... or you can ask for less, just enough to make your film (which is what you should be doing anyway), and your more likely to be able to actually make your film.

What Mad Hatter really means, good luck. If you figure out how to get people to donate to you for that cause please write a book and let us know how you did it.

I don't think I've heard any success stories along the similar lines to what you're asking. If it was that easy to get that much donated (you're asking for 6-12 months salary for most people) to buy gear to kick start your studio, don't you think every half-talented film maker would have already done that?

 

[Alcove Audio]

I planned to alocate the $3000.00 or so of the $25-30K I plan to raise to BUYING equipment for a reason. you can get stuff or a discount on amazon. less than any store price i have seen.

Even a very basic prosumer production sound kit will set you back $1,200 to $1,500 - and you still need someone competent to run it. And if you buy a passable entry level production sound kit you won't have much left for lenses and lights, much less the camera.

And what about audio post? What is your budget allocation there? Or are you planning on buying about $10k worth of gear to do audio post properly?

You may be able to get lower prices on Amazon, but what about product support. Is it worth saving a few dollars and then to be left with your Johnson in your hand when problems arise?


I just don't understand the obsession with having to own all of the gear needed to make a film. And it takes a lot of time and effort to learn how to use it all. And, having learned how to use it all, you immediately relinquish control of those crafts to people who have much less knowledge than you do (or even no knowledge).

 

[RaymondLeggs]

The reason I want to buy all the gear is so I can have control of the quality of stuff I can get,

And Its liability issues since I plan on having a constantly moving camera.

with my own gear I can have longer schedule.

Cannon EOS rebel T3 600.00

 

[Alcove Audio]

So you want to control the quality downwards? You will be able to rent better gear than you would be able to buy at your budget level.

But that is not the issue; the issue is WHO IS GOING TO RUN THE GEAR??? Quality is dependent upon the skill with which the gear is used. That is why you hire a professional; they have the skills, the techniques and the experience to do the job right - PLUS THEY ALREADY HAVE THE GEAR, and it will be of far superior quality than any you could buy on your extremely limited budget.

 

[jax_rox]

The issue is also that people aren't going to give you money so you can buy your own gear. Crowdfunding is not a charity. People want to 'invest' in a film, or an idea, not a person.

 

[RaymondLeggs]

The issue is also that people aren't going to give you money so you can buy your own gear. Crowdfunding is not a charity. People want to 'invest' in a film, or an idea, not a person.

I guess I will be working more on the actual film. script on up to directing and Practical SFX

So you want to control the quality downwards? You will be able to rent better gear than you would be able to buy at your budget level.

But that is not the issue; the issue is WHO IS GOING TO RUN THE GEAR??? Quality is dependent upon the skill with which the gear is used. That is why you hire a professional; they have the skills, the techniques and the experience to do the job right - PLUS THEY ALREADY HAVE THE GEAR, and it will be of far superior quality than any you could buy on your extremely limited budget.

Great then I can focus on the rest of the movie. Leave the Camera and stuff to people who know what they are doing, the only thing I'd have to do myself or partially is the score. and of course the SFX/model work.

leave any CGI to graphic artists who specialize in that field. Get a DP lighting and sound man.